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Should FMCA Allow Towable RVs-- Vote By All FMCA Members Coming Up

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One other question I am wondering, and has sort of been mentioned in the past: Have there been any surveys of non-members to find out their interest in membership? Why motorhome owners are not members (what is their reason).  Also, IF towable owners have any interest in being members.

We keep speculating on these questions, but without facts, we are just guessing.  I wouldn't mind if FMCA spent some of our limited resources to get real numbers on this information.

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As I mentioned earlier in this thread, or maybe the old thread, I joined FMCA last year, I am not yet 50, by a few months, semi-retired, and I plan to attend my first regional rally this fall, so maybe there is stuff there that I am not seeing.  However as a nearly 50 year old, I see very little that I can use to go out and promote FMCA to younger motorhome owners, both empty nesters that are my age, as well as those that are younger.  The tire program is great, but hopefully I will not need to use it for 3 or 4 more years.  About the only thing that really seems to interest me out there is Safari International as an owners  club.  I did also just sign up for the roadside assistance program, but thankfully have not had a chance to use it on my current multi thousand mile tour of the US, I am 2,500 miles into it in the last 2 weeks, and have another 1,200 - 3,000 miles to go, depending on if I choose the early opt out and return home option this next Tuesday.

Just take a moment and ask yourself, what does the FMCA offer the 35-55 year old crowd, those that have teenagers, or even the empty nesters who generally are still tied to a job.  Those that have decided to dip their toe into motorhome ownership, and have went out and bought  a 10-15 year old coach.  Lets see, there is the tire discount, if it is a year they need new tires,  Hmmmmmmm a magazine they will never read, rallies and conventions they will not attend unless they happen to occur in their back yards....

 

 

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6 hours ago, BillAdams said:

The problem is that "we" haven't done anything.  Doing anything is not our job.  The problem is that the folks who own this business have not done anything and now, as the funds are drying up, these business owners are looking to find a way to keep a dying business alive.  The business is failing because the business owners have failed to keep up with the times and they now don't see any other path to profitability other than whoring themselves out to every RV owner completely wiping out the original intent of this business.

Yes, Herman, I am still on topic.  I really don't need any additional chastising from you.

Bill, I wonder where you come from. You keep talking about who owns this "business" Do you not know who "owns" this business?  News for you, it is everyone on this forum and the rest of the members of FMCA that "own" this "business". So, in reality, it is your JOB to do something instead of pontificate  here on the forum

Everyone keeps harping about the money issue. Bad news for everyone, FMCA is NOT BROKE and going under water. Why don't some of you read the financials? If you don't have them or know where to look for them, you can call Cincinnati and request the latest

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2 hours ago, Isaaac1 said:

Just take a moment and ask yourself, what does the FMCA offer the 35-55 year old crowd, those that have teenagers, or even the empty nesters who generally are still tied to a job.  Those that have decided to dip their toe into motorhome ownership, and have went out and bought  a 10-15 year old coach.  Lets see, there is the tire discount, if it is a year they need new tires,  Hmmmmmmm a magazine they will never read, rallies and conventions they will not attend unless they happen to occur in their back yards....

 

 

Fyi, I am 51 years old, not semi-retired, I get two weeks of vacation a year, and a few long weekends, and travel with one teenager. 

Although, there is alot FMCA does that is not appealing to my family, I DO read the magazine each month, I HAVE utilized the Michline Tire program (and saved about $500.00), and I get $10.00 back, each time I renew my Sam's club membership.  On top of that, I have gained invaluable knowledge from the magazine and this forum about weighing my coach and tire pressures, about the 30amp power I plug into at each campsite, and many other safety issues.

There are benefits for motorhome owners of all ages, FMCA (and the members) just need to do a better job of getting the word out.

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7 hours ago, dons2346 said:

Bill, I wonder where you come from. You keep talking about who owns this "business" Do you not know who "owns" this business?  News for you, it is everyone on this forum and the rest of the members of FMCA that "own" this "business". So, in reality, it is your JOB to do something instead of pontificate  here on the forum

Everyone keeps harping about the money issue. Bad news for everyone, FMCA is NOT BROKE and going under water. Why don't some of you read the financials? If you don't have them or know where to look for them, you can call Cincinnati and request the latest

We all all members of FMCA but the business that operates this organization is FMC with which we have nothing to do.  If you or someone else wants to volunteer to help this business make money that's OK but it's not my job.  This business is not a charity helping those less fortunate, it's just a business like Good Sam or Escapee working to make money to support the various activities they offer.  Actually, they offer various activities to raise money, they just are not doing as good a job as they used to.  Remember the FMCA rally in Brunswick, ME?  I do, I was there.  There were something like 8,000 coaches there.  What's the average rally these days 1500-2000 (or less) when they hold them in Perry, GA over and over and over again?  At Indy was a great change but boy I bet that was hot!

Again, I am not trying to make it sound like I am offended that FMC makes money.  That's their job.  If you didn't have paid employees you would not have FMC without FMC you don't have FMCA.  Where I come from is from being a business owner most of my life and I never asked anyone to do work for free so my employees could get a pay check.

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15 hours ago, BillAdams said:

The problem is that "we" haven't done anything.  Doing anything is not our job.  The problem is that the folks who own this business have not done anything and now, as the funds are drying up, these business owners are looking to find a way to keep a dying business alive.  The business is failing because the business owners have failed to keep up with the times and they now don't see any other path to profitability other than whoring themselves out to every RV owner completely wiping out the original intent of this business.

Yes, Herman, I am still on topic.  I really don't need any additional chastising from you.

Staying on topic here. Bill you say 'We' haven't and that the doing is not our job. Partly correct. BUT... The real growth potential for FMCA or any organization is at the grass root level, the local chapter level. Are you a member of a chapter? Are you an active member of a chapter? And yes, I am a member, but have not been active, looking to change that in the near future. That out of the way, if chapters which are generally local affairs are not welcoming to new people, young people, people with kids, they will not help to grow the organization. Said this all before, I've been a member going on 10 years now. Been to two National Rallies. Local chapters seemed to have rallies that were more than likely during school or during the week. Both nixed our attending. We need to be able to get to and home from a rally between Friday night and Sunday night. This does not mean that a chapter can't have a rally that starts on Thursday, but the meat and potatoes should be the weekend. This way the working MH owner can still attend. This is particularly important if the rally is held during the time that the local schools are open. If we want FMCA to remain the Rich Old People Motor Home Association then we need to continue this. We need chapters, yes we need MORE chapters or maybe just more active chapters that cater to the audience we are supposedly targeting, younger people, If we bring in a crop of Old Towable Owners what makes us think our average age will drop? We need to have something for the membership to participate in during their available camping season. Not everyo

ne can take off three or four weeks to travel across the country to a National Rally.

 

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Before you join a chapter you have to join FMCA so joining a chapter is not going to grow the FMCA family as you are already a part before you got involved with a chapter.  How would someone who is not an FMCA member learn about a local FMCA chapter?

No, I am not a member of a chapter.  As the old saying goes "I wouldn't join any club that would have me as a member"!  OK, just a joke, but seriously I am not a chapter member as I still travel and work full time so there's really is no chapter that would be appropriate for me and which I could learn or share information with as we are rarely in the same place multiple times.

I am firmly against having towables join FMCA (I know, you are surprised to learn this!) as I don't believe that this is the business, beliefs or values that started this organization.  It's sad to think that the powers that be can't find a way to run the business (organization or whatever you would like to call it) the way the founders wanted.  I know stuff changes but it's not like there are no longer people buying and enjoying motor homes any more.  It's just a matter of FMCA not doing the job of getting those owners interested in what they are doing.  Once towables join, FMCA will lose even more motor home owners but hopefully the new organization which will no longer even use the word Family or Motor Home in their name can re-invent itself (completely) and offer a broader range of services to a broader audience.

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Too bad the vote didn't happen a few months ago, so we would already know the results.  If the vote was yes, allow towables, we could have gotten several motorhomes together on Monday in Hinckley Maine to watch the eclipse and start a motor home only group, just like it was in July 1963, when FMCA was started.

https://www.fmca.com/home-mainmenu-1/about-fmca/192-the-history-of-fmca.html

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BillA.  Sounds like you finally got your ducks in a row and I agree with it all ! 

Unfortunately, times and Family values have changed a lot since 1963!   My feeling is that it changed to the worst...So, the future of FMCA is going to have to be along the lines of high tech of the day!  That, is not being offered.  With or without towables, FMCA must change it's thinking first, or die!

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Carl,

I agree we must change, I just don't agree that we must throw out everything from the past. We need to change to be more welcoming to the younger people with families, we need to change so that we are not perceived as the rich old fart club, we need to figure out why so few Motor Home owners join. If we can't attract our core group, we are doing something very wrong, opening membership to a different group does not and  will not fix the underlying issues.

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