Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

Repairing Shore Power Cable Power Reel


  • Please log in to reply
53 replies to this topic

#1 peepafox

peepafox

    Newbie

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 8 posts
  • Location:Los Angeles, Ca

Posted 16 January 2010 - 11:24 PM

I have a 2004 Monaco Windsor coach and it has a power-driven, 50-amp cord storage reel. Over the New Year's camping trip I was in the process of rewinding the power cord back into the coach. It stopped winding in and all I could hear was the motor running. Now I had to hand wind the power cord on to the reel. That was not fun and If it had been cold it would have been less fun. I got it back on the reel by hand and we proceeded with our holiday travels.

On returning home I looked for information on the reel. I had none and I could not see the label on the reel as there is not much space on ether side of it in the compartment it is installed in.

I called Monaco and they said it was a TDA RV 5036 reel and not repairable. I then got on the internet and located TDA in Florida. The RV 5036 is no longer in there catalog so I called them. (1-904-242-0742) and they informed me that they had a gear replacemant Kit for less than $25. I was not sure that it was what I needed but for $25 I would take a chance so I ordered it and it came to me in 7 Days.

So today Saturday Jan 16 I took on the task of repairing the reel. The real challange was getting it out of the coach. There is not much space to work in the compartment it is located in my coach and it is heavy (over 40 lbs. with the cord on it and over 20 lbs with the cord pulled off of it.

The task of removing it was to disconnect the input feed wires that come out of the reel on a HEAVY and HARD to bend pegtail from the coach wirings. disconnecting was easy as all I had to do was loosen some wire nuts. I also had to disconnect the +12 volt motor drive leads. Remove 4 bolts from the top of the compartment and drop out the reel. It was not easy but not that hard.

Installing the new gears was a simple task of drilling out 10 rivets and removing a cover and the old gears. Clean the area and install the new gears. (Yes the small sun gear had broken) on the motor shaft and grease the new gears. Reinstall the cover and 10 new rivets (supplied with the kit).

Now the problem was to get this heavy reel assembly back in the compartment. I used a small hydrolic jack to lift it up so I could get it attached to the floor above. It is in and working as it should be but it took me about 6 hours but I think it saved myself about $1,000 if I paid to have replaced or repaired.
  • 1
Larry Fox
04 Monaco Windsor Coach
Toad is 02 GMC Envoy
One wife Sandy
One pup Jack
One cat Sara

#2 wolfe10

wolfe10

    Advanced Member

  • Moderator, Super
  • PipPipPip
  • 3,691 posts
  • Location:League City, Texas

Posted 17 January 2010 - 10:34 AM

Larry,

Excellent information for anyone with a TDA reel.

Thanks for the detailed description.

Brett Wolfe
  • 0

Dianne and Brett Wolfe
1997 Safari Sahara 3540
Moderator, FMCA.com Forums
Chairman, FMCA Technical Advisory Committee
Member, FMCA Long-Range and Development Committee 2007-2009
Moderator, http://www.dieselrvclub.org/(FMCA chapter)


#3 hermanmullins

hermanmullins

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,636 posts
  • Location:Whitewright, TEXAS

Posted 17 January 2010 - 12:27 PM

peepa
I have a 02 Monaco Dynasty and I don't know which cable reel I have. Does yous wind into a tub or on to a reel? Was your cable in a bind when you were trying to rewind it? I am just asking these questions in hope that I can prevent having your same problem. By the way you gave a great presentation on the repair and will help folks that incure this repair.
Thanks.
  • 0

"Fair winds and Following Seas"

Herman & Bobbie Mullins, F302225
Whitewright, TEXAS
'02 Monaco Dynasty, 40-foot 400 HP ISL
Chevrolet Silverado (M & G air brakes)
U.S. Navy PR-3 1956 to 1964

Southern Region Vice President for Six-State Rally Association
Lone Star Chapter FMCA Past President
South Central Lucky Rollers
Rally in The Pasture


#4 peepafox

peepafox

    Newbie

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 8 posts
  • Location:Los Angeles, Ca

Posted 17 January 2010 - 01:05 PM

Herman:
My TDI is a reel and not the tub type. As it is a reel the cord was not in a birds nest. The problem was that the reel would not wind the cable back in under with it's motor. I had to wind the reel by hand to get the cable on the reel. The reel unit can be mounted to the floor of the coach and not on the floor of the storage compartment . This saves space in the storage compartment. I think that the tub type must be mounted on the floor of the storage compartment.

Note: TDI web site is http://www.tdiproducts.com/

Larry
  • 0
Larry Fox
04 Monaco Windsor Coach
Toad is 02 GMC Envoy
One wife Sandy
One pup Jack
One cat Sara

#5 TBUTLER

TBUTLER

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,353 posts
  • Location:Nampa, Idaho

Posted 17 January 2010 - 07:24 PM

Larry, Thanks again. I've saved your information for later reference. Thanks for posting the repairs you are making to your coach. I'll try to do the same in return.
  • 0

Tom and Louise Butler
2004 Monaco Windsor, Cummins 400 ISL
Roadmaster Sterling Tow Bar, Brakemaster, GMC Acadia, BikeE Recumbent Bicycles

After 9 1/2 years full time in our motor home and being Winter Texans we are now living at Sandpipers Resort in Edinburg, Texas. Now we are Summer Chickens!

"The tipi is much better to live in; always clean and warm in winter, cool in summer, easy to move... If the Great Spirit wanted men to live in one place he would have made the world stand still." -- Flying Hawk, South Dakota Oglala Sioux


#6 EngineerMike

EngineerMike

    Newbie

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 9 posts

Posted 19 February 2010 - 03:32 PM

These motorized reel setups (cords & hoses) fairly well max out their components in my experience. The motor can be over-amped by having the cord head or cord/hose catch on something, and the gears & motors are barely up to the task at hand. Two things I have found are useful to keeping mine running (I've had the Glendinningdrum type and the Shorelinereel setup):

1) Clean the cord or hose when reeling in. Accumulation of dirt on the mechanisms dramatically increases friction over time and can ruin a reel setup in a few years. I have a rag handy & simply wipe down my cord as it gets sucked in.
2) Do a hand-over-hand assist when reeling in, so the motor only has to do enough reeling to store the cord or hose, not to haul it across the ground, pull it around the power pedestal,... This minimizes strain on the components and should make for a long life. This is easy to do while I wipe down the sand, mud, etc. It is really easy to do w/the Glendinning if you use their remote control fob (you hold the cord or hose and push the fob button for retract and walk it toward the coach). You can find the remote on line for about $250 and it will handle both the cord reel and hose reel in case your rig has both.
  • 0

#7 734greg

734greg

    Newbie

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 6 posts

Posted 20 February 2010 - 10:19 PM

Larry, my 2002 39' Airstream 396XL also has the auto 50 Amp Cord Reel. Believe me when I say it is no fun manually stowing a 50 Amp cord in a basement compartment. My first 35' AS MH did not have an auto reel so I speak from experience. Here is my routine for not placing excess stress on the reel mechanism: 1) Unplug the cord from the electric box and place the plug on the ground where I will be standing to reel in the cord. 2) With a wet shop cloth in my right hand I grasp the cord at the cord entrance port and wipe it clean for approximately 30 inches with the switch in the off position. 3) With my left hand, I then move the switch to the "IN" position and reel in the cleaned portion of the cord steading the cord with my right hand as it is reeled in the approximately 30 inches. I then repeat steps 2 and 3 until the entire cord is cleaned and reeled into the plastic storage container taking just a few minutes from start to finish.

The 50 Amp lug prongs are cleaned of any dirt or mud leaving the equipment clean the next time it is needed. So far I have no problem with the cable power reel.
  • 0

#8 BackhoeJ

BackhoeJ

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 22 posts

Posted 11 August 2012 - 02:06 PM

Good piece of info Larry.

I had same problem,called Monaco-- they didn't have parts. Called TDA-- they no longer exist. Called TRC they took over TDA & they no longer have parts. They all want you to buy new reel ($1000).

All that's wrong with it is a small plastic drive gear & a few rivets. So my son owns a CNC machine shop & he made me some of these gears which work better than new. It is now installed in my coach 2005 Monaco.

PS: I have extra gears if any ones in need. There for Shoreline Reel RV5036 gear replacement.

Thanks

John
  • 1

#9 hermanmullins

hermanmullins

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,636 posts
  • Location:Whitewright, TEXAS

Posted 11 August 2012 - 06:11 PM

John,

Welcome to the Forum.

With a son like yours you have a whole new career. With so many thing on an RV Made of Plastic, he can make the replacement parts and you can to the sales side.

Good luck.

Herman
  • 0

"Fair winds and Following Seas"

Herman & Bobbie Mullins, F302225
Whitewright, TEXAS
'02 Monaco Dynasty, 40-foot 400 HP ISL
Chevrolet Silverado (M & G air brakes)
U.S. Navy PR-3 1956 to 1964

Southern Region Vice President for Six-State Rally Association
Lone Star Chapter FMCA Past President
South Central Lucky Rollers
Rally in The Pasture


#10 BackhoeJ

BackhoeJ

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 22 posts

Posted 14 August 2012 - 08:25 PM

Thank you, he can make it out of any material. He's an engineering genius, saved me a lot of $ . John
  • 0

#11 tkcas01

tkcas01

    Newbie

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 8 posts

Posted 16 August 2012 - 12:58 PM

I am so happy to have stumbled upon this thread. My Shoreline reel stripped its gears last year and I called the manufacturer who told me the unit was obsolete and no parts were available (as mentioned earlier).

I sent a PM to BackhoeJ - hope to hear back so I can get some replacement gears! Its a shame to have to toss the whole assembly just because of some broken gears.
  • 0

#12 BackhoeJ

BackhoeJ

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 22 posts

Posted 16 August 2012 - 08:02 PM

BackhoeJ contacted Terry about Shoreline reel, all's well. Will save him hundreds of $.

Thanks. John
  • 0

#13 tkcas01

tkcas01

    Newbie

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 8 posts

Posted 18 August 2012 - 05:02 PM

Today I got my reel out and the gearbox off, and sure enough it is just the little drive gear that failed. Here is a pic John sent me of his failed gear and mine was exactly the same issue. Simple little fix to avoid tossing the whole thing in the trash and buying a new one!

Posted Image
  • 1

#14 tkcas01

tkcas01

    Newbie

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 8 posts

Posted 25 August 2012 - 05:00 PM

OK, got my gear and rivets from John and had this thing repaired in no time. See documentation of my repair here:

http://www.rv.net/fo...id/26336645.cfm


Thanks again to John and his son for providing a means to make this repair and save about $600!
  • 0

#15 BackhoeJ

BackhoeJ

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 22 posts

Posted 25 August 2012 - 07:27 PM

Hi Terry glad you got it fixed and all's well. Glad i could help .Thanks backhoeJ
  • 0

#16 glaxdal

glaxdal

    Newbie

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 3 posts

Posted 27 August 2012 - 04:39 PM

BackhoeJ,

I'm currently having the same problem with my 50 amp Shoreline Electrical reel. While researching on the internet an authorized repair service, I came upon this FMCA forum. While not very mechanically inclined, after reading the dialogue along with all the pictures, etc. I figured I "might" be able to do this, and to my surprise.....I have the same small gear that is broken.

If I may, I would like to purchase one of these gears to fix my current problem and one to keep as a spare. I am a current FMCA member, own a Tiffin 2006 Allegro Bus and reside in Polk City, Fl.

Please let me know how much your selling the gears for and I will be more than happy to pay for the parts, shipping, etc.

My address is:

Niel Laxdal
364 Meandering Way
Polk City, Fl. 33868

Email address: nlaxdal@tampabay.rr.com

Thanks so much for the helpful tips everyone!!!
  • 0

#17 BackhoeJ

BackhoeJ

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 22 posts

Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:22 PM

Hi everyone BackhoeJ here. Contacted glaxdal, will be shipping him some gears.

Thank You, John (BackhoeJ)
  • 0

#18 tkcas01

tkcas01

    Newbie

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 8 posts

Posted 28 August 2012 - 07:44 PM

So great we have found a way to repair these and can work together to everyone's benefit. Thanks BackhoeJ for leading the charge! This will be a fun thread to watch!
  • 0

#19 BackhoeJ

BackhoeJ

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 22 posts

Posted 29 August 2012 - 07:43 PM

Glad to help, tired of being ripped off. Just had my Norcold 4-door refrig. circuitboard replaced ($650).Ripoff. BackhoeJ
  • 0

#20 BackhoeJ

BackhoeJ

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 22 posts

Posted 31 August 2012 - 03:43 PM

Hi everyone, shipped out gear kit to Niel Laxdal today, another happy camper.

Thanks, John (BackhoeJ)
  • 0




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users