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Goodyear vs. Michelin


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#1 kymfontana

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 09:07 AM

Cost notwithstanding, Goodyear vs. Michelin ... what is the "preferred" choice, if there is one?

Any feedback would be appreciated.

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#2 wolfe10

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 10:36 AM

KYM,

What size tire and what do you have on it now?

Second question: Have you weighed the individual wheel positions (best) or axles and do the tires have extra capacity? Said another way, are your tires maxed out on what they can carry, or do you have some safety reserve?

Also, when buying new tires, make sure they are NEW, because you will likely replace them due to age, not tread wear. The last 4 digits of the DOT number tell you the WEEK and YEAR the tires were made. Best to get them within 3 or 4 months of new.

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 11:10 PM

I personally prefer Michelin. I like the full steel jacket and the longer durability. Just a personal preference. Both manufacturers are good. Just buy from a reputable tire dealer and not a discount house.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 11:19 AM

Not sure I understand why you couldn't deal with a reputable discount dealer, as long as they stand behind their merchandise, and athe DOT # tells you the tires are relatively new.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 11:19 AM

Not sure I understand why you couldn't deal with a reputable discount dealer, as long as they stand behind their merchandise, and the DOT # tells you the tires are relatively new.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 11:59 AM

Considering my experiance with Goodyear not withstanding the fact that I live in the City of Goodyears largest plant, I would not have them. I have had them ride like a square and hard to balance. Not to mention one failing. And no it had nothing to do with maintenance or air pressure as I'm a stickler on that. After changing my Class A to Michelin my problems were solved.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 12:09 PM

On our cars we've had good experience with Michelin. With our one motorhome that had them - YUK. I'd say stay away from the XRV's - all others are probably fine. We had GY on our first MH (used Triple E) and they were fine. Second was a 39Ft Winnie Journey DP and the XRV's were terrible. We concluded we would NEVER buy a MH that had XRV's.

Third was a heavier 41 ft Ambassador with GY's and they were fine.

Fourth is a Kodiak based C with GY's and they too have been fine.

At one time Freightliner did not allow any choice for MH manufacturers ordering its chassis - Michelins only. We took a tour of the Gaffney plant after all the XRV complaints were being reported on the forums and noticed a lot were getting GY's. When I asked they were reluctant to comment but made it clear that it was due to demand from dealers (and whispered - because of problems with the XRV's). Shortly after Michelin increased the inflation pressures by 10 psi. Ours had real difficulty holding air.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 12:21 PM

As I write this response, I am spending a few weeks on the Oregon coast in an RV community. Out of the 23 RV's here, only two have Goodyear tires, the rest have Michelin or some other brand. The Michelin's all have sidewall cracks that in some cases you could put a quarter in up to George's head. I myself have Goodyear's on my coach and all my rigs including my utility trailer tires. All tires have held up well with zero problems. Goodyear also has a special RV tire with compounds that deter UV, and ozone, which is what causes the deterioration. I will be replacing my tires within the next few months with Goodyear RV G670 tires in the recommended size for my coach. Also, Goodyear has a 5 year manufacture warranty from the date of purchase, if you keep the receipt, or form the date of manufacture if you didn't. I have had tire failures twice on Michelin's and will only trust my family's safety to Goodyear.

Hope this is helpful.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 12:45 PM

Yes, many more motorhomes ride on Michelin than any other brand. Therefore more trouble free miles AND one would expect also more problems-- even if their reliability exceeds others. I am not suggesting which is best, but from a statistics standpoint one should look at failure rate/mile or failure rate/tire, not total number of failures. Were we to just consider total number of failures, a cheap Chinese tire that has only been imported for a year or two would WIN???

We have 151,000 miles on our coach, all on Michelin (third set because of age-- 17 1/2 year old coach) with zero failures and very seldom that I even have to add air.

We are quite happy with Michelin.

One of the secrets to any tire's longevity is that it is properly sized to carry the actual load (see my post above). A tire that is carrying 100% of its designed capacity WILL be more prone to failure than one sized with a safety reserve. And a corollary: if it is carrying its maximum capacity ANY PSI less than full PSI will have the tire operating under inflated/over loaded.

One cost cutting measure at many chassis makers through the years is to spec a "barely adequately" sized tire. Save a few dollars times 6 tires on every chassis. THAT is why I suggested above verifying that you have a tire with some reserve capacity-- irrespective of brand.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:28 PM

I have run both Michelins and Goodyears. I found both to do the job intended. My current coach is equipped with Goodyear G670's. They have served me well and I am very happy with them.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:30 PM

What about Continentals HSR1 275/70r22.5? How do these compare to Goodyear 670rv and Michelin XZA2? :rolleyes:
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 02:42 PM

I have been using Goodyear on my vehicles for over 30 years and wouldn't use anything else. My motor home (a 2007 Tiffin 42 foot Allegro Bus) came with Michelins. We're full timers. I've been very happy with them on our Spartan chassis. I do remember that when Goodyear first came out with the G670 there was a lot of complaints, especially with people who were not full timers and kept their units in storage. Tiffin was using them for awhile when they first came out but there were so many complaints that they went back to Michelins. Don't know if he has restarted using Goodyears or not. I like the fact that the Goodyears have a five year warranty but I'd need to know that they corrected the original problem which was one poster stated, they rode like a square!

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 03:44 PM

Upgraded to a new pusher Dec. 2007 and had to replace my 2 front Michelin tires on a trip from Fl to the west coast ( tires had 21 thousand miles) and the sidewalls had large cracks, The motor home had set on the dealer lot in Florida for a year before I got it but to have 2 tires fail at the same time. My last motor home had Goodyears on it and I made two trips to Alaska and 5 trips to Ca. and over 50 thousand miles and just replaced them because they were 7 years old, with no problems. I will be taking off the back tires and replacing them with Goodyear before I start to travel next year.
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#14 merv.forney@erols.com

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 05:12 PM

Great question with many diverse comments. We all have different experiences; good and bad ... Here's mine:

Bought the 2008 coach on a Freightliner chassis with Goodyear 670RV all around. Had each wheel weighed and consulted the Goodyear weight/pressure charts and kept them appropriately inflated. Regardless of manufacturer, this is the absolute best practice. BTW, we full time and have put 30K+ miles on the coach in two years.

Just this past June, we had a inside rear dual go flat (good thing I had pressure monitors, another best practice) and it appears the tread simply separated from the casing; a Goodyear defective tire. Also, I have never been completely satisfied with the overall handling of the coach.

I just replaced the steering axle Goodyear 670RV's with Michelin XZA2 Energy's. I cannot believe the positive difference in ride and handling. I am now a Michelin believer. Still running the Goodyear on the drive axle duals but when ready to replace those, I will go Michelin.

So, it may not make too much difference which manufacturer you choose. What is important is to have each wheel weighed, adjust pressure appropriately, strongly recommend pressure monitors, keep the front end in tip/top shape, drive defensively and enjoy the ride. Both companies enjoy great reputations.

Attached is the Goodyear with tread separation.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 05:15 PM

What happened to to Bridgestone??? I have had bad experiences with both Michelin and GoodYear. One like to explode and the other sheds treads. This happened on both my class A Beaver and Gas Powered Overland until I switched to Bridgestones!!!!!! This is a fact not fiction!! I don't care how good they say the warranty is, what good does it do you on a Sunday or Holiday when you are in the middle of nowhere?? And also try to collect on your warranty from Michelin these days as I just went through that with them on my GMC Envoy Toad. Tires weren't even three years old!!!!!
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 05:21 PM

That's interesting. It may be the difference between what kind of coach it was installed on, but we replaced our GY fronts with Michelin and found no difference at all in ride or handling. We are due for new tires all the way around and we will be putting GY's on simply due to the large price difference.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 06:43 PM

What happened to to Bridgestone??? I have had bad experiences with both Michelin and GoodYear. One like to explode and the other sheds treads. This happened on both my class A Beaver and Gas Powered Overland until I switched to Bridgestones!!!!!! This is a fact not fiction!! I don't care how good they say the warranty is, what good does it do you on a Sunday or Holiday when you are in the middle of nowhere?? And also try to collect on your warranty from Michelin these days as I just went through that with them on my GMC Envoy Toad. Tires weren't even three years old!!!!!


Have a friend that swears by Bridgestone. I have no experience. Price difference?
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 06:50 PM

That's interesting. It may be the difference between what kind of coach it was installed on, but we replaced our GY fronts with Michelin and found no difference at all in ride or handling. We are due for new tires all the way around and we will be putting GY's on simply due to the large price difference.


I priced Goodyear vs Michelin at Les Schwab in the Northwest and the Michelins were about $50/tire less expensive. Hmmmm ... go figure.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 08:04 PM

I priced Goodyear vs Michelin at Les Schwab in the Northwest and the Michelins were about $50/tire less expensive. Hmmmm ... go figure.

You only get what you pay for!!! The only reason I change my Bridgestones is for age!!! Never had a problem with then on either Class A coaches I've had them on. I had to remove my Michelin's from my GMC Envoy due to dry rot and cracks in the tread after only a little over 3 years old. Michelin wanted Ramona Tire to send in all 4 tires so they could look at them and then they would issue a adjustment!! Well Ramona Tire installed 4 new Bridgestones and said they would handle Michelin for me as they said Michelin has gotten very bad on warranty. The new Bridgestones ride much better with less road noise. I've had the last set of Michelins on any of my vehicles!! I wonder why most RV ers only consider Goodyear and Michelin???? Seems to me that some of you are missing out on a good tire!!!!!
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 08:57 PM

The tire guy I talked to, who has been in the tire business for 40 years, recommended the Continentals, so thats what I put on mine.
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