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#1 Whoachubby

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 11:05 PM

I hate to keep starting new topics. However I just replaced toilet and had everything hooked up turned on the pump and now I hear water running somewhere under the floor. It is draining onto the drive so it is at least not bringing water into the coach floor.
Anybody know how to access water lines without tearing out floor.

Coach is 1999 Fleetwood Discovery.
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#2 wolfe10

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 11:19 PM

Check and make sure that you did not open one of the drain. This assumes that the water is leaking directly on the ground, not into the basement and then seeping out through the floor.
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#3 Whoachubby

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 09:21 AM

Here is what happened.

The Discovery layout has the living area then a shower sink and bathroom all together.

I did not like the carpet in the shower and sink area so when I removed the toilet I decided to pull the carpet and tile from the bath and replace with a floating floor.
In order to make the tile even with the carpeted living area we put down 1/4 inch plywood.
We put a few very short roofing nails in the wood to hold it down and I suspect we nicked a water line.

Not a very smart thing to do. The question is - can I cut out the floor in the suspect area and repair the hose as it sits without replacing it?
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#4 DickandLois

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 09:30 AM

Whoachubby ! The water lines run between the floor and the sub floor.there is a space of about 3 to 4 in. Not the easiest area to work. or to get into.The only way to get a look under / between the floors is with a inspection mirror and a flashlight. There are inspection video cameras mounted on a goose neck for looking between walls,but they are not cheep and I do not know if you could find a rental unit.

There are locations behind draws and behind cold air returns that allow some access to areas.

The plumbing line information regarding supplier and type are in one of my folders, I just have to locate it. Should you be interested.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 10:00 AM

Follow up,

I see you now know what area is leaking. Remove the nails. If you have a rental outlet in the area, see if they have a power stapler that uses staples that are 3/8in. in length. Kind of like the ones used for putting down carpet, just need the proper length staples!

There is a air powered unit, but I do not know if you might have air lines with the proper couplings to connect things together.

The lines are connected in most cases with release type couplers that require a tool made for that operation. Regular PVC tubing is not used, because it will fail / split quickly if it ever freezes. the plumbing lines are stiff,but when warm will bend / flex enough to work them out and back into the area. The RV line is much more forgiving is this case, but it to can burst if things really freeze up.

Repairs will need a lot of patience and some time spent looking for ways to remove and replace the affected line(s).

Removing the floor is not the best option !!! It should be avoided.

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#6 Whoachubby

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 12:42 PM

Thanks for the response.

Turns out there is a Channel that runs from the water outlet to the shower. The water lines sit in this channel and there is a 1/4 inch board screwed on top the channel. Since the board is only 1/4 thick the roofing nail went thru. All of the other nails went into 3/4 plywood.
I pulled up the tile and will pull up the channel cover. Hopefully it will be a quick fix from that point on.

Quite a lesson learned about how these things are put together.
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 10:08 AM

Whoachubby ! The water lines run between the floor and the sub floor.there is a space of about 3 to 4 in. Not the easiest area to work. or to get into.The only way to get a look under / between the floors is with a inspection mirror and a flashlight. There are inspection video cameras mounted on a goose neck for looking between walls,but they are not cheep and I do not know if you could find a rental unit.

There are locations behind draws and behind cold air returns that allow some access to areas.

The plumbing line information regarding supplier and type are in one of my folders, I just have to locate it. Should you be interested.

R.M.


Just a point of information, "Harbor Freight" has inspection cameras and they are not bad in price, also "Camping World" has one listed at a higher price.
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#8 Whoachubby

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 07:30 PM

All fixed
I was able to saw the cover plate over the channel .
Found the hole in the pipe and cut it out. Put a new coupler on the line and we are functional again.
Put floor down for second time and we are on to the next project
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#9 wolfe10

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 07:49 PM

Congratulations.

I am SURE-- lesson learned.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 05:01 AM

You better call a leak detection service.This leak detection services will help you in detecting any type of leakage in pipes and also repair it.There may be some leakage in your pipes .Nowadays leak detection services use new technologies and all sort of problems can be solved easily by leak detection specialist


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