gkozlo Report post Posted December 22, 2017 Looking for a good diesel repair shop near Ft Myers FL. My brother needs his tank removed and cleaned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfe10 Report post Posted December 22, 2017 gkozlo, Welcome to the FMCA Forum. Does he have a problem that FUEL POLISHING would not cure? A lot less $$ and should be easy to find in that marine area. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hermanmullins Report post Posted December 22, 2017 gkozlo, Welcome to the Forum. Need a bit more information. What make of coach does your brother have, model, size, gas or diesel (full or empty) and what is in his tank calling for removal? With this information there may be a solution other than removal. Herman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gkozlo Report post Posted December 22, 2017 guess he put diff in fuel tank not knowing it belongs in a separate tank they drained and changed filters ran for 10 min and died again belive its 35 foot with a cat engine think he said he put $200 new fuel in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfe10 Report post Posted December 22, 2017 So, what he really needs is someone who can safely dispose of contaminated fuel. Check with the local Ford dealer-- DEF contaminated fuel tanks are not uncommon in PU's either. Local fire department may also have a recommendation. And, do NOT start the engine again until all the DEF is out of tank, lines and (new) filters, or the cost of repair will jump up exponentially. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gkozlo Report post Posted December 22, 2017 The place he's at only drained the tank. He needs someone capable of pulling the tank and cleaning it out right. Thanks. Gary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jleamont Report post Posted December 22, 2017 Gary, since it made its way into the fuel system I would take it to a CAT dealer, they will most likely have to tear down the fuel system and see how much damage it did. Depending on the year and engine it could sway into the, oh...my really expensive category. I will say from experience I would get a few CAT diesels a year that had gasoline in them at the dealer (sadly common on motorhomes). Lift pump, filters, push diesel through the lines and 6 fuel injectors on the smaller engines and away you go. Bigger engines, different animal! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hermanmullins Report post Posted December 22, 2017 Here is a time to have it towed or trailer-ed to the dealer. Should not try to restart it again. Herman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted December 23, 2017 Quote DEF in CAT engine. I was not aware of any CAT engine requiring the 2010 mandate of DEF in a coach? Thought they stopped making rec engines before 2010. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ispjs Report post Posted December 23, 2017 I would call Gene's Auto & Frame (239/334-7427) in Ft. Myers. They do alignments on large rigs, towing, body repairs, etc. Not sure how much mechanical stuff they do but when I have been there the county always has school buses and squad cars there being worked on. Other than that I don't know who services Cat engines in this area. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elkhartjim Report post Posted December 23, 2017 2 hours ago, manholt said: I was not aware of any CAT engine requiring the 2010 mandate of DEF in a coach? Thought they stopped making rec engines before 2010. Excellent point, Carl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfe10 Report post Posted December 23, 2017 Agree, but that does not mean that someone could not (by mistake) use the DEF nozzle to fill the diesel tank! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elkhartjim Report post Posted December 23, 2017 Or he really has a Cummins, Brett. When I was looking at new motorhomes and jacking with a salesman, I asked what this extra big tank was for (the DEF tank) and he said "its a reserve diesel tank". God help any unknowing customer that may have bought from him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildebill308 Report post Posted December 23, 2017 21 hours ago, gkozlo said: The place he's at only drained the tank. He needs someone capable of pulling the tank and cleaning it out right. Thanks. Gary Welcome to the forum Gary. What we need is more information. what make and year of coach. What your brother needs is some one smart enough to clean all the DEF out of his fuel system and not just the tank. This will require (as Joe said) a complete tear down of the fuel system and repair/replacement of damaged parts. If you don't do this cleaning the fuel tank is a waste of money. Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted December 23, 2017 Even when I had the Allegro Bus, I never used the DEF pump at the Truck Stop's. So my question is: Is there a preset limit on how many gallons you can get from a DEF dispenser, before it shut's off? $200 of DEF= 60 plus gallons! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elkhartjim Report post Posted December 23, 2017 On 12/22/2017 at 0:18 PM, gkozlo said: think he said he put $200 new fuel in Carl, I read that as he put $200 of fuel in after the tank was drained. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jleamont Report post Posted December 23, 2017 At work it became a problem, I believe when we hit 1/2 a million in damage to a few units something had to be done. We put magnetic inserts in the fill necks on the DEF tanks, the nozzles have a corresponding magnet so when you slide the nozzle in it releases a valve. Solved that, plus we only fuel a small handful of trucks on the road, everyone got training! Our diesel nozzles are all high flow (large nozzle) so it won't fit in the DEF tank. Now we only deal with washer fluid in the DEF tanks . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted December 23, 2017 Joe. Washer fluid in DEF tank? Oh, if they only came with a brain! Jim S. Your right, very confusing post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jleamont Report post Posted December 23, 2017 Carl, blue cap on both...still no excuse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted December 23, 2017 Joe. On a coach the DEF tank is normally 13 or 15 gallons. Mine was 13, but you could only get 9 in as the cap was bellow the top! How big is it in your trucks? I don't have it on my current rig...my windshield washer fluid tank will hold a gallon! Do your drivers really think they need a 4+ year supply? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jleamont Report post Posted December 24, 2017 Carl, drivers today are not the drivers of yesterday, oh the stories I could tell you . Technology is advancing as driver quality is rapidly depleting, if not the roads would be more dangerous than now. Small straight trucks 4.5 gallons medium duty straight trucks 13 gallons Heavy duty tractors 15-20 gallons the larger the fuel tanks the larger the DEF tank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted December 24, 2017 That's a lot of washer fluid ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ispjs Report post Posted December 25, 2017 I don't think he is coming back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildebill308 Report post Posted December 25, 2017 MERRY CHRISTMAS. No unfortunately it seams the OP is not understanding what is going to be required to get that coach running. Some one told him clean the tank and that is all he want's to hear. Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elkhartjim Report post Posted December 25, 2017 2 hours ago, ISPJS said: I don't think he is coming back. Joe, you're relatively new to the forum but you'll soon learn we have a lot of one time posters. Aggravating to say the least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
