dball Report post Posted March 30, 2020 A place for discussing developments related to the coronavirus/COVID-19 outbreak - campground info, personal experiences, tips, etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildebill308 Report post Posted March 31, 2020 Thanks Dan. Probably a good idea to have a thread just for this. Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayne77590 Report post Posted March 31, 2020 We finally got a city breakdown and my city has 12 cases for the population of 45,000. That is, I think, about 0.03% (Total of 92 for the county, no deaths, 17 recovered.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huffypuff Report post Posted March 31, 2020 Island County, WA population 78,506 with 105 cases, 1 death, unknown recovered hopefully all the others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f433921 Report post Posted March 31, 2020 Wahkiakum County, WA. Population 5000, 0 cases, help us to keep it at 0, STAY HOME anywhere you may live. Thanks, Jim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
five Report post Posted March 31, 2020 I don't put much faith in the data the MSM is giving us. Last week, our local CBS anchor came on and reported "17 new cases of the flu." They went to a break, then came back and said, "of those 17 cases, none were Covid19." Typical deceitful and half truth reporting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richard5933 Report post Posted March 31, 2020 14 minutes ago, FIVE said: I don't put much faith in the data the MSM is giving us. Last week, our local CBS anchor came on and reported "17 new cases of the flu." They went to a break, then came back and said, "of those 17 cases, none were Covid19." Typical deceitful and half truth reporting. How is that deceitful? They said 17 new cases of the flu (not Covid 19), and when they came back they reiterated by saying none were Covid 19. Both of those statements seem to be in line with each other - which was a half truth. Seems to me that everyone is complaining that the media doesn't cover the seasonal flu, and here you have a case where that's exactly what they were doing. When people say they don't trust the mainstream media, that only leaves the media which is even further to each side with more extreme bias. There is not a great plethora of truly neutral media out there that is not in some way established, and therefore considered "mainstream" to some. The truth is, every media outlet has its own bias - it's been that way since the founding fathers and it will probably always be that way. In grade school civics class we were taught to separate opinion from fact. Why? Because every good consumer of news should be able to tell the difference even when the media outlet makes them both seem the same. Time for everyone to take a breath and remember that until just a few years ago there were only a few nightly news shows on just three networks, and we just accepted what they said as news. Now that we have so many more choices we are determined to constantly knock down any newscast or media report that we don't agree with. I try and watch a variety of reports, from the left all the way to the right. The truth lies somewhere in between them all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted March 31, 2020 Burnet, County, Texas...POP 76,804, 3 confirmed COVID-19, 0 death's! We would like to keep it that way...Please stay home! Wayne, Richard. IMHO there is no absolute truth! WHO is lying, CDC is only giving out about 70%, because they, like the research Scientist/Doctors of exotic medicine, them self only know 70% of what their dealing with. Morning, noon or nightly news, no matter who they are, can only give out the numbers they have been told. Yes, some are more conservative than others and some embellish the info to make themselves sound, more in the know ! The truth does not lie "somewhere in between", the info where getting! The problem here, is the uncertainty of when can we get on with life, see our friends, family, work, travel, etc. We have no pill or vaccine for COVID-19, like we do for the Flu! That puts people in fear and doubt about the future! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fagnaml Report post Posted March 31, 2020 The greater Houston area and my company "Stay At Home" directives were just extended through April 30 ! Working from my temporary "card table office" in a guest bedroom is not fun! Never knew how much I'd miss face-to-face interactions with my work colleagues! Skype Instant Messaging, Webex, phone calls and texting don't come anywhere close to the benefits of personal interactions. The wife and I greatly miss going to Mass followed by hosting a big family dinner each Sunday! At least Specs and Total Wine remain open to keep the wine fridge full..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hermanmullins Report post Posted March 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, fagnaml said: At least Specs and Total Wine remain open to keep the wine fridge full..... At least you can have your own communion at home just not three times a day. Herman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fagnaml Report post Posted March 31, 2020 Dan Ball -- This discussion, since it is so prevalent to current events, suggest moving this discussion /thread "General Discussions" rather than being buried under "Campgrounds". Doing so would make it easier for forum members to find. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richard5933 Report post Posted March 31, 2020 2 hours ago, manholt said: ...The problem here, is the uncertainty of when can we get on with life, see our friends, family, work, travel, etc. We have no pill or vaccine for COVID-19, like we do for the Flu! That puts people in fear and doubt about the future! Very true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayne77590 Report post Posted April 1, 2020 It is difficult to absorb all the information and especially with all the contradictions between the story tellers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hermanmullins Report post Posted April 1, 2020 5 hours ago, wayne77590 said: It is difficult to absorb all the information and especially with all the contradictions between the storytellers. I think that is the biggest problem. Too many of the World, National and Local news agencies are all trying to sensationalize the information received and not reporting , "Just the facts Mam, just the facts". Herman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jleamont Report post Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, hermanmullins said: Just the facts Mam, just the facts". Hey, that's my line! Everything is in lock down out here, I really have nothing good to say about the situation, its quite scary when you leave the house, people are all geared up in PPE, gloves and wipes litter the parking lots. I am considered essential so I am reporting to the office every day, not crazy about it but I am thankful I still have income for now anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richard5933 Report post Posted April 1, 2020 I miss Walter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jleamont Report post Posted April 1, 2020 1 minute ago, richard5933 said: I miss Walter. Agreed! I can still hear his voice. Paul Harvey was my other favorite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted April 1, 2020 If you ever met Walter in a party or reception setting, you would not miss him! Wayne. Agree! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
five Report post Posted April 1, 2020 You guys that miss Walter are obviously too young to remember him and his side kick, Eric Sevareid. Walter was the first in a long line of CBS anchors (Dan Rather, Scott "I'm a serious journalist" Pelley, etc), that had a difficult time telling fact from fiction. I returned from my first VN tour in the summer of 1968, and reported to my new duty station. Soon after getting into our quarters, we were watching America's Newsman reporting on a major battle in VN. Walter continuously found fault with the military, the manner in which it was conducted, how poor the results were, how many GIs were KIA, how many Vietnamese were killed....on and on. His report was full of half truths, partial truths and just plain lies. I know, because I was there on the ground and saw it all in living color. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
five Report post Posted April 1, 2020 21 hours ago, richard5933 said: ....How is that deceitful? They said 17 new cases of the flu (not Covid 19), and when they came back they reiterated by saying none were Covid 19. Both of those statements seem to be in line with each other - which was a half truth... Had he been totally truthful, and not deceitful, he would have made the entire statement together. As it was, since the country was talking about the Covid-19 virus, his first statement inferred the new cases were all Covid-19....and that's what we thought, until his second statement after the break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayne77590 Report post Posted April 1, 2020 3 hours ago, manholt said: If you ever met Walter in a party or reception setting, you would not miss him! Wayne. Agree! Yep! Agree! On another subject and in keeping with the thread topic: I live in Galveston County and the city of Texas City TX. As of yesterday: We have 106 cases in the county with a population of 330,000 + a few. We have 17 cases in Texas City with a population of 45,000 + a few. That's like 0.04% Today's info is not out yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfe10 Report post Posted April 1, 2020 Suspect this applies to most areas of the country, and likely many other countries as well, but the published COVID-19 counts can be quite misleading (well lower than actual): * Most areas have way too few test kits. On the Houston news last night they showed several blocks worth of cars backed up hoping to get tested. And, all in those lines had been pre-screened for symptoms. Hopefully we are near the point where test kit supply + personnel to administer and read them approaches demand/need. * Reports do not include those tested, but for whom test results are not back. * Reports certainly does not count those who have the virus but as yet are asymptomatic-- they would be screened out from even being tested in most areas. * In some areas, not unwisely, where they don't have sufficient test kits, they are not even testing-- with the reasoning that "if they are in respiratory distress and need hospitalization, they go into the hospital and are quarantined as a precaution". It appears that we are near the end of this group as substantially more test kits are available. No, I see no "plot", no intent to deceive by either the CDC or news media. And, with the exception of a very few very non-science based remarks I think most are bending over backwards to be transparent. I think we all realize that this virus has overwhelmed the health care system in many countries around the world and there is (reasonably) a LOT of "learn as we go". We may look back on the economic health of our country and see an effect never seen before-- Have suggested to an Economics Professor I know that this would/will make an excellent PHD thesis title: What happens in a consumer/consumption- driven economy when the buying suddenly drops precipitously. Let's all continue to work together and all STAY HEALTHY! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayne77590 Report post Posted April 1, 2020 Went to Texas City H.E.B today and replenished some necessities and food. Don't need paper products but they did have a few left on the shelf. H.E.B. limits the number of people who can go into the store. That makes it easy to keep distances. Everyone was giving a wider birth than normal when passing by. At the register they have place "foot prints" of where to stand waiting for a register to open. They have put up plexiglass in front of the checkers and baggers, on both sides of the register. There is a small opening for delivering the receipt and there is a large vertical opening where the credit card receiver is located. Well done H.E.B. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayne77590 Report post Posted April 1, 2020 Not much else we have to go on except for that which is reported. Yep, understand that many are going unreported. Just need a metric to compare days. At least that will give some semblance of increase or decrease. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
