Coronavirus/COVID-19 Updates & Alerts

[wolfe10]

Agree, a good metric and, I suspect, getting better as more are tested.

[manholt]

Rocked our boat this morning, when they predicted 240,000 new deaths in the US, in the next month or less!  Those numbers are scary in a Country that has less than 400 million people.  China has around 4.5 billion, India has about 1.3 billion and the rest of the world has the other approx 1 billion!  

If the 240k comes to pass, that's just for the month of April in America!  That means the rest of the World is in deep S.  We all are!  

Brett, you mentioned "Consumer driven economics"...even without the 240k, it's taking a nose dive all over the world.  On paper, my investments are down 47% in 2 months.  In Norway my bank accounts are  frozen, because I'm a US Citizen and they want the $$$ to stay in the country!  Overnight Norway has gone from Free Enterprise to Socialism!

Unless we can get a handle  on COVID-19, within the next 3 months, there's a real possibility that 1/3 to half the Worlds population will be dead by the end of 2020.

[jleamont]

1 hour ago, wayne77590 said:

Yep, understand that many are going unreported.

One thing to remember, there will be a spike in the numbers one the testing has become more available and more are tested, especially when so many can have it in the early phase and not know it.

I have a co worker that I spoke to on the phone yesterday, his family member had the mild fever and feeling terrible symptoms, got tested, results were negative, two days later symptoms got worse, went back in with difficulty breathing, retested came back positive. Couple that with seasonal allergies, colds and the flu running around I can understand why people are scared. 

My biggest pet peeve is all of the conflicting information on how to stay safe. Yeah, yeah avoid people, but what about the virus being on groceries, grocery bags or airborne? Cannot seem to get two reports to agree on these issues along with how long it lasts on different surfaces. I refuse to believe if someone sneezes and its windy it wont carry it farther than 6 feet. Water mist would certainly travel that distance how can the virus suspended in droplets not? 

[wayne77590]

This is not for "fear," but information. Read the disclamer that they don't know how many micro-droplets are needed.

Research From Japan

This possible type of spread is present for any virus transmittable from human to human, not just Coronavirus.

 

[jleamont]

Throughout this pandemic they say a lot of skills will come out of people like cooking. my cooking skills have gotten creative  

[hermanmullins]

A Frank & Beans Miti.

Herman

[wolfe10]

SORRY, in Texas we (mostly Dianne) would say: "THAT JUST AIN'T RITE"

[jleamont]

Sorry, this post needed some humor. 
On a serious note, my DW has been tolerating me cooking up a new “quarantined” menu to see if we all like it. 
 

[richard5933]

3 hours ago, jleamont said:

...My biggest pet peeve is all of the conflicting information on how to stay safe. Yeah, yeah avoid people, but what about the virus being on groceries, grocery bags or airborne? Cannot seem to get two reports to agree on these issues along with how long it lasts on different surfaces. I refuse to believe if someone sneezes and its windy it wont carry it farther than 6 feet. Water mist would certainly travel that distance how can the virus suspended in droplets not? 

I think that's where the hand washing comes in. Even if the package you're carrying has something on it, washing your hands before touching your face will help a lot.

We have designated our kitchen counters and table as clean zones, and don't place any packages, grocery bags, or groceries on the counter till they are unpacked or wiped down.

We don't wear shoes in the house, so that eliminates anything tracked in on our feet.

There was an episode of Mythbusters that dealt with this topic. They were discussing it in relation to the seasonal flu, but the concept still holds. (Season 8, Episode 10). Some really good visual example of how big a difference little things can make.

 

[rayin]

Keeping this in perspective is difficult, so much conflicting information and statistics. Statistics and percentages lose their meaning when a family member contracts the virus. Guidelines have changed every day, hard to keep up. Now if you buy groceries, we are told to leave them sitting outside for 24 hours, as COVID19 will survive on cardboard and paper that long, hard surfaces 2-3 days.(it's on TV)

A niece is an LPN supervising an Alzheimer care company. Tuesday she was admitted to the hospital with COVID19, today  she was put on a ventilator, not doing well. My 97 yr old mother has dementia, knows about her granddaughter, and I suspect she's about to give up. I try to call her every day now in hopes I can lift her spirits some, and mine too. Can't visit her in person, bad for both her and my ailing DW and me.

Now our military is affected, the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt is docked at Guam, mission interrupted after docking at Vietnam where the virus was brought aboard.

Personally, cabin fever is putting up a good fight.  I've about worn-out one chain saw in the past 3 weeks. The upside, I feel better than I have for a long time, exercise is a cure for a lot of things.

 

[wayne77590]

We had that grocery out in the garage this evening about leaving the hard canned/boxed stuff in the garage.

Okay, so what about the perishables, don't they have the same possibility as the packaged stuff?

Hey, packaged meat. Who packed it and are the virus free?

It becomes absurd but one has to be careful.

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4 hours ago, jleamont said:

Sorry, this post needed some humor. 
On a serious note, my DW has been tolerating me cooking up a new “quarantined” menu to see if we all like it. 
 

You could make a good presentation by wrapping it in a toilet paper bow.

[manholt]

I have seen a lot on this Forum in the past 7 years.  Joe, you take the price, I call it a "Bean-a-rita!"  

Ray, your right.  The only problem is that now, most of my and Linda's cloths don't fit any more, too big.  The upside is that all the work has gotten Linda off insulin...she's now floating around 115.  For her, that's perfect.  I'm truly sorry about your niece and pray for her recovery! 🙏

[jleamont]

1 hour ago, manholt said:

Joe, you take the price, I call it a "Bean-a-rita!" 

Carl, Beanie-Weenie-Tini 

1 hour ago, manholt said:

The upside is that all the work has gotten Linda off insulin

THAT'S GREAT NEWS!!!

 

10 hours ago, RayIN said:

A niece is an LPN supervising an Alzheimer care company. Tuesday she was admitted to the hospital with COVID19,

Ray, sorry to hear, we will keep her in our prayers. 

[wolfe10]

We have been doing order on-line, curb side pickup.

When we get home, all bags on the patio.  Disposable gloves on-- same ones I use when working on mechanical stuff. Spray bottle with 1:5 Clorox to water, then rinse with water for anything that is sealed.

Vegies in wrappers-- wipe outside of bag/wrappers with Clorox rag and dry.

Other veggies like onions and potatoes pour into large bowl and store for 3 days before using.

May sound excessive, but seems like a good investment of 10 minutes per grocery run.  Not like our social schedule is packed.

[manholt]

Brett.  May I recommend using 60+% alcohol instead of Clorox!  Store root veggi's in cardboard, kills COVID-19 in 3 days.

We don't even pick up dinner at restaurants anymore...stopped that 10 days ago and now having Tex-Mex withdrawals!  

[dbenoit]

I have dreams of Chinese Buffet. I run for it in slow motion but it keeps moving away........

Then I wake up and have oatmeal with a banana and yogurt.......

[wolfe10]

14 minutes ago, manholt said:

Brett.  May I recommend using 60+% alcohol instead of Clorox!  Store root veggi's in cardboard, kills COVID-19 in 3 days.

We don't even pick up dinner at restaurants anymore...stopped that 10 days ago and now having Tex-Mex withdrawals!  

No, saving the alcohol for internal use.

Either bleach or alcohol appear to be acceptable virus killers.

[hermanmullins]

Carl you know that nothing can live on Tex-Mex food.

But you can make one of Joe's cocktails and put a heaping scoop of salsa on it.

Herman 

[hermanmullins]

We have a friend that is bored, she goes outside and knocks on her front then goes back inside and asks "who's there "

Herman 

[wolfe10]

Herman,

Is this before or after happy hour???

[wildebill308]

Did you hear about the big terrible tragedy in Dallas? It may be the  end of civilization as we know it!!

https://www.fox4news.com/news/18-wheeler-carrying-toilet-paper-crashes-in-dallas

Bill

[rayin]

All this about sitting stuff outside for 24 hrs, wiping everything off/sanitizing, suggests to me the authorities now suspect this virus has became airborne. It that turns out accurate, the worst is yet to come, especially for densely populated areas. ref: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339887436_2020_COVID-19_Coronavirus_Ultraviolet_Susceptibility

Right now I'm considering ordering a far UV light unit, seems to be the most effective way to sanitize everything we bring into the house. ref: http://www.columbia.edu/~djb3/Far UVC.html

Turns out I'm premature on the far UV light devices, they are not in production yet: https://sterilray.com/ I'll put my name on their waiting list.

 

[jleamont]

43 minutes ago, wolfe10 said:

Is this before or after happy hour???

Sounds like after .

Herman, I'll have to suggest that to my 18yr old, try and keep her busy. 

[ianbullock]

Myth: Leaving Groceries in Your Car or Outside for a Day Will Make Them Safer

There is an ill-informed rumor on Facebook that leaving groceries in your car or outside for a day or two will keep you safe from COVID-19. While technically, the virus can live on some surfaces for hours, the most likely way to get the contagion is from being near someone who has it.

Leaving your groceries in the trunk, garage, or outside for a day or couple of days won't make you any less likely to stay COVID-19-free. It will just leave with you wilted, stale, smelly food.

[wayne77590]

There are some Vodkas an whiskeys that are over 90% alcohol.  Throw a little olive oil in a bottle, add some of that alcohol, shake well and use as hand sanitizer,

There will be some alcohol left over so do what you must with it, or save it for more sanitizer.