Coronavirus/COVID-19 Updates & Alerts

[wolfe10]

90 PROOF is not the same as 90%. Even 151 Rum falls short.

To my knowledge, only Everclear is "potable" alcohol that is that high a percent.

[wayne77590]

My earlier point of so many contradictions regarding the Coronavirus.

How to disinfect groceries

[wayne77590]

Polish-made Spirytus vodka — 96 percent alcohol — is the strongest bottle of liquor sold in the world.

Barcardi 151 is 75.5% alcohol.

I'm not a chemist so I'm not sure if that is the percentage of ethanol or watered down.

Yep! Everclear is 75.5% also, I think.

Careful in mixing as it has to be the right amount of everything or one can burn their skin.

[manholt]

All off you!  I was referring to 75% and 91% Isopropyl Alcohol, we use it in a mix of 2 parts alcohol to 1 part 100% Alo gel.  I don't think Brett wan'ts that for HH. 

Wayne.  Everclear is 100% or 200 proof, when you open the bottle you lose 2% (4 proof)...each time you close/open you will cause it to lose a couple of %!  Linda had a Liquor  store for 16 years...it's now leased to another Liquor store, she owns the 1.5 acres and building !  Bacardi, Spirytus, Wild Turkey and 101 Smirnoff is watered down!  I made my own mix in Norway, when I worked in North Sea from 1969 to 1976!  It was then & still is against the law to brew your own, But you can go to the Hardware store and buy all the equipment and directions to make your own and any Kiosk has shelves with 1 oz bottles of extract's!  Don't understand why the no brew law...

[wayne77590]

Just going by what I read when I was researching sanitizers.

"Everclear is a brand name of rectified spirit (also known as grain alcohol and neutral spirit) produced by the American company Luxco (formerly known as the David Sherman Corporation). It is made from grain and is bottled at 120, 151, 189, and 190 U.S. proof (60%, 75.5%, 94.5% and 95% alcohol by volume, respectively)."

[wolfe10]

OK, let's stop WINEing.

[wayne77590]

Be careful when watching news and reading items on the Internet. Not all is as it may seem. Stay calm and it to shall pass.

CBS Admits to using footage from Italy

Brett, Red or white?

[manholt]

Wayne.  Last time I saw Brett & his lovely DW, I believe it was a Chardonnay...I was on Merlot.  They do bottles, I do Black Box in coach.  Learned my lesson about 8 years ago, when a nice bottle of Cakebread, Cabernet fell to the floor and busted, it was a 1992!   The last one in a case, that I bought in 1992 & paid $400 for the case, I had just sold the other 11 bottles to a Restaurant in Houston...yes, I had tears in my eye's.  I now, keep my collection at home.

[rayin]

5 hours ago, wayne77590 said:

Polish-made Spirytus vodka — 96 percent alcohol — is the strongest bottle of liquor sold in the world.

Barcardi 151 is 75.5% alcohol.

I'm not a chemist so I'm not sure if that is the percentage of ethanol or watered down.

Yep! Everclear is 75.5% also, I think.

Careful in mixing as it has to be the right amount of everything or one can burn their skin.

Skin is not the only thing EverClear burns_.

Thanks for the  grocery wiping down myth link! DW was about to freak-out.

[wolfe10]

19 minutes ago, manholt said:

Wayne.  Last time I saw Brett & his lovely DW, I believe it was a Chardonnay...I was on Merlot.  They do bottles, I do Black Box in coach.  Learned my lesson about 8 years ago, when a nice bottle of Cakebread, Cabernet fell to the floor and busted, it was a 1992!   The last one in a case, that I bought in 1992 & paid $400 for the case, I had just sold the other 11 bottles to a Restaurant in Houston...yes, I had tears in my eye's.  I now, keep my collection at home.

Actually, the place box wine makes excellent sense is on a boat. Crossing from the U.S. to the Bahamas in a sailboat (done that many times) having a bottle break in the bilge can make a huge mess. Done that once.  After that, box wine only.

If that happens in a motorhome,  look at shocks, your route, your packing.  Never had one break on the road, including some REALLY rough roads in south Mexico.

[manholt]

Brett, it came out of a upper cabinet on a panic, stand on break, engine break in low, stop!  A car from Ohio changed lanes and had no break lights...the wine is not the only thing that shifted, a stem less glass of Baccarat crystal also shattered...that old couple (probably younger than me) could have gone to the hospital 40 minutes before they did, they tried to beat a Oil field truck onto 285 N in Carlsbad, NM.  I saw it happen, not much left of car!  

The Shocks was fine (2011 Allegro Bus, this was 2012), Route was ok back then, but packing sucked!!!

[wayne77590]

4 hours ago, RayIN said:

Skin is not the only thing EverClear burns_.

Thanks for the  grocery wiping down myth link! DW was about to freak-out.

Unfortunately controversy is still prevalent. Tonight on news they talked about wiping down everything you tale out of the bag, and anything you set the bag on.

Will it ever end!!

[jleamont]

6 hours ago, wayne77590 said:

Unfortunately controversy is still prevalent. Tonight on news they talked about wiping down everything you tale out of the bag, and anything you set the bag on.

Will it ever end!!

YUP, now the recommendation around here is mask up when out in public in places where social distancing is difficult (supermarket aisles was mentioned). N95 or not, anything is better than nothing. 

[richard5933]

1 hour ago, jleamont said:

YUP, now the recommendation around here is mask up when out in public in places where social distancing is difficult (supermarket aisles was mentioned). N95 or not, anything is better than nothing. 

Since many people carrying the virus have no symptoms (yet) but are still contagious, the masks are to protect others more than to protect the wearer. If everyone wears one, the chance of passing the virus to another is greatly reduced. Hopefully it will just wither on the vine that way. Hopefully.

[jleamont]

15 minutes ago, richard5933 said:

Since many people carrying the virus have no symptoms (yet) but are still contagious, the masks are to protect others more than to protect the wearer. If everyone wears one, the chance of passing the virus to another is greatly reduced. Hopefully it will just wither on the vine that way. Hopefully.

YUP, makes perfect sense, if you have it you can keep it to yourself or greatly reduce the chance of anyone else getting it. 

[hermanmullins]

Carl, that's great news about Linda. I know she has struggled with her diabetes for years. Tell her I said "You go girl keep it up"

Herman 

[hermanmullins]

I receive this yesterday. A long read but for me was very good read. 

______________________________________________________________________________________________

"I talked to a man today"

Author Unknown 

I talked with a man today, an 80+-year-old man. I asked him if there was anything I can get him while this Corona virus scare was gripping America.

 He simply smiled, looked away and said:

"Let me tell you what I need! I need to believe, at some point, this country my generation fought for... I need to believe this nation we handed safely to our children and their children...

I need to know this generation will quit being a bunch of sissies...that they respect what they've been given...that they've earned what others sacrificed for."

I wasn't sure where the conversation was going or if it was going anywhere at all. So, I sat there, quietly observing. 

"You know, I was a little boy during WWII. Those were scary days. We didn't know if we were going to be speaking English, German or Japanese at the end of the war. There was no certainty, no guarantees like Americans enjoy today.

And no home went without sacrifice or loss. Every house, up and down every street, had someone in harm's way. Maybe their Daddy was a soldier, maybe their son was a sailor, maybe it was an uncle. Sometimes it was the whole **** family...fathers, sons, uncles...

Having someone, you love, sent off to war...it wasn't less frightening than it is today. It was scary as ****. If anything, it was more frightening. We didn't have battlefront news. We didn't have email or cell phones. You sent them away and you hoped...you prayed. You may not hear from them for months, if ever. Sometimes a mother was getting her son's letters the same day Dad was comforting her over their child's death.

And we sacrificed. You couldn't buy things. Everything was rationed. You were only allowed so much milk per month, only so much bread, toilet paper. EVERYTHING was restricted for the war effort. And what you weren't using, what you didn't need, things you threw away, they were saved and sorted for the war effort. My generation was the original recycling movement in America.

And we had viruses back then...serious viruses. Things like polio, measles, and such. It was nothing to walk to school and pass a house or two that was quarantined. We didn't shut down our schools. We didn't shut down our cities. We carried on, without masks, without hand sanitizer. And do you know what? We persevered. We overcame. We didn't attack our President, we came together. We rallied around the flag for the war. Thick or thin, we were in it to win. And we would lose more boys in an hour of combat than we lose in entire wars today."

He slowly looked away again. Maybe I saw a small tear in the corner of his eye. Then he continued:

"Today's kids don't know sacrifice. They think sacrifice is not having coverage on their phone while they freely drive across the country. Today's kids are selfish and spoiled. In my generation, we looked out for our elders. We helped out with single moms whose husbands were either at war or dead from war. Today's kids rush the store; buying everything they can...no concern for anyone but themselves. It's shameful the way Americans behave these days. None of them deserve the sacrifices their granddads made.

So, no I don't need anything. I appreciate your offer but, I know I've been through worse things than this virus. But maybe I should be asking you, what can I do to help you? Do you have enough pop to get through this, enough steak? Will you be able to survive with 113 channels on your TV?"

I smiled, fighting back a tear of my own...now humbled by a man in his 80's. All I could do was thank him for the history lesson, leave my number for emergency and leave with my ego firmly tucked in my rear.

I talked to a man today. A real man an American man from an era long gone and forgotten. We will never understand the sacrifices. We will never fully earn their sacrifices. But we should work harder to learn about them, learn from them...to respect them.

 __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Herman

 

 

[wildebill308]

Good one Herman.

Bill

[fagnaml]

This YouTube video from a family physician in Michigan provides guidance on how to handle groceries as they are brought into a home

--> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjDuwc9KBps

 

With regards to the "beanie weenie martini", Quarantinis are become quite popular.  Here is a Quarantini recipe that looks good and is healthy as it contains Vitamin C --> https://nypost.com/2020/03/17/heres-how-to-make-a-perfect-quarantini-while-stuck-at-home/   I haven't tried it yet but will this weekend.....  

 

[manholt]

Thank you Herman!  

The one thing that I don't understand in all of this COVID-19.  Why are we on Lock Down?  Why are we in an economical disaster?  There is no cure or magical pill or vaccine for SARES, Swine Flu, Spanish Flu, Bird Flu or HIV...They all kill tens of thousands every year and that's here in America....we have never had any kind of lock down due to them!  

There are several countries that are treating Corona, like any other virus and it's working.  As most of you know, I have family in both Norway (under lock down) and Sweden (no lock down),  I don't go by how many is infected, but by how many death's.  Both countries are about the same!  Another 2 months and they will have the normal Summer colds! By the way, all the OTC stuff we can get here for colds or flu like symptoms, you'll need a Doctors prescription!

 

[richard5933]

2 hours ago, manholt said:

Thank you Herman!  

The one thing that I don't understand in all of this COVID-19.  Why are we on Lock Down?  Why are we in an economical disaster?  There is no cure or magical pill or vaccine for SARES, Swine Flu, Spanish Flu, Bird Flu or HIV...They all kill tens of thousands every year and that's here in America....we have never had any kind of lock down due to them!  

There are several countries that are treating Corona, like any other virus and it's working.  As most of you know, I have family in both Norway (under lock down) and Sweden (no lock down),  I don't go by how many is infected, but by how many death's.  Both countries are about the same!  Another 2 months and they will have the normal Summer colds! By the way, all the OTC stuff we can get here for colds or flu like symptoms, you'll need a Doctors prescription!

 

Maybe to keep the number of expected deaths in the US down to 'only' 140,000 - 250,000 rather than a million or more? Those are the current projections from the task force this week. We've already had over 7,385 deaths in the US alone, and it's only been a few months.

I'm afraid that your numbers are simply wrong. Not only in the number of deaths, but in the response.

• Spanish Flu - Of all those you listed, this is the only one that would be comparable. Millions died during the Spanish flu pandemic over a couple of years. Philadelphia had a parade in spite of the growing pandemic, which greatly increased the number of cases in the Philadelphia area. St. Louis did the opposite, and closed schools and severely limited public gathering. St. Louis had 1/8th the mortality rate of Philadelphia as a result. Which example would you rather follow this time around? There were counties that closed the roads leading to the county in an attempt to keep the Spanish flu out. https://www.history.com/news/spanish-flu-pandemic-response-cities
• SARS - No deaths in the US
• Swine Flu (H1N1) - 12,469 deaths in the US over a one year time period. In comparison, to date there have already been 7,385+ deaths due to Covid-19 in only a few months.
• Bird (Avian) Flu - Worldwide 616 deaths from 2013 thru 2019.
• HIV - Nearly always preventable, and not spread by being near someone who has HIV. This is a red herring and is an apples to oranges comparison. And, if you remember, before it was known how HIV was transmitted similar precautions were taken when treating HIV patients, with some medical professionals even refusing to treat patients with HIV.

If it makes you happy to deny the facts, you're free to do that. But, doesn't change them.

The bigger question is how we, as a country, can pull together and work towards a goal of coming out of this with an intact and working economic system in spite of the current crisis.

[five]

1 hour ago, richard5933 said:

.....Maybe to keep the number of expected deaths in the US down to 'only' 140,000 - 250,000 rather than a million or more? Those are the current projections from the task force this week....

They have no idea how many deaths there will be, all these "predictions and projections" are based on models.  Just like the weather guessers when there is a hurricane heading toward the FL coast.  One model says it will go up the west coast another model says it will go up the east coast.  As the late great humorist Lewis Grizzard  would say, "they ain't got no clue what the expected deaths are."

[txiceman]

There will always be the "Sky is falling crowd and then there are the Nay-Sayers.  This virus is proving to be dangerous and the info on it is constantly evolving.  I believe in science and Doctors for medical knowledge over either crowd.

Yes, these are models based on the best scientific data available.  What we do not need is some clown with no medical knowledge standing up in from of the cameras and telling everyone we will be fine by Easter.

Be safe, stay home and shelter in place as best you can.

Ken

[rayin]

5 hours ago, fagnaml said:

This YouTube video from a family physician in Michigan provides guidance on how to handle groceries as they are brought into a home

--> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjDuwc9KBps

 

With regards to the "beanie weenie martini", Quarantinis are become quite popular.  Here is a Quarantini recipe that looks good and is healthy as it contains Vitamin C --> https://nypost.com/2020/03/17/heres-how-to-make-a-perfect-quarantini-while-stuck-at-home/   I haven't tried it yet but will this weekend.....  

 

That's the video proven bad advice/over-the-top, see the link Wayne posted.

[rayin]

Herman, I have my ration book from WW II. Mom gave it to me 2 decades ago.

 

This virus is officially SARS-CoV-2. Preliminary study shows some evidence cats and dogs can contract the virus.