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Howdy Folks, Got the trailer set up with the help of the very friendly original owners! They were kind enough to meet me and show how to hook up, run all systems, etc. It is hooked up to shore power at a RV park. It is very cozy! The AC is cold! I'm glad the AC can run on either electric or generator. That Honda 4010 fires right up! So if the power goes out, I do have the option of the generator. Currently it is hooked up to electric fr AC, fridge, heat. I am currently paying a flat electric bill at $80/mo for unlimited electricity. I do wonder if it can take a toll on the electric heat/AC unit running it all the time. It is on a thermostat, so it runs as needed. I believe its a Carrier brand unit, not 100% positive. I do also have the option of the floor heating system since winter is coming. That system runs off propane. I love the trailer! It feels like home! It is very comfy! One thing I don't like is the "race car" checkered flag awning. But the awning is awesome for not only outside shade, it also helps keep the interior cool too! I will change the awning style when I can find out the costs and if its a reasonable price. I'm having fun so far and the unit is really nice! And the park is very decent too!
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Hello Chris, I ended up not needing to finance the '94 Dutchmen Classic trailer I purchased yesterday from the original owners for $5,500. I figured it was best to start with a trailer, I can always upgrade in 2-3 years and saves me from making RV payments to save up for the Damon Challenger too. I also paid for a months rent and deposit for a lot at a RV park in Golden, CO and I will be there at 9 am this Saturday to set up and the previous owners will spend the day showing me the full works, how to set up, run all systems, etc. very nice folks who have been RVers for 50 years. I will stay there for a month, then move to Dakota Ridge RV Park nearby for the winter. Where are you located? If youre close by, meeting for coffee sounds good! I do work M-F, so weekends are best. Greg
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Hello ClayL, I purchased a '94 Dutchmen Classic 26 foot trailer yesterday from the orgininal owners. The trailer is meticulous and has all service records. They also did all reccommended services on time. It has a newer Honda 4010 generator. The only thing I will need to do is get rid of the twin bed setup, and remodel it to fit a full bed (or possibly a queen, I need to do some measurements to see if a queen will fit) with underbed storage and new cabinets and closets. I will do the work myself but will wait a few months before doing that so I can get settled down and get used to the full timer lifestyle. I still have the sofa bed to sleep in while remodeling the bedroom. I figured it was best to start with a trailer to see what my needs actually are after full timing for a while. I can always upgrade to a Class A later. Do you or anyone know how the Dutchmen Classic bumper pull will handle the winters? I'm thinking I may have to get a couple of those electric heat cords to wrap the plumbing with to keep them from freezing. Not sure what to do about the black, grey, and fresh water tanks. Maybe insulate them or a tank heater? As far as I understand the furnace, refrigerator, and AC can run on either electric, propane, or the generator (gen is a Honda 4010). I will be hooked up to shore power as I found a lot to rent month to month with free water and sewer, and $80 flat electric monthly bill, so I can run whatever electric I want. I was thinking of buying one of those thermostat controlled oil filled radiator heaters to keep the furnace from working too hard. And help protect the indoor plumbing, and also to keep my dog warm while I'm at work. The light bulb for the valve area is a great idea! I will go pick up one of those work type clamp lights with the metal dish at the hardware store and a heavy duty extension cord. Wondering if I will need tank heaters for the 3 tanks? I'm new to this lifestyle. I will start full timing this weekend or next. Trailer will be placed at te lot this Saturday. When hooked up to shore, do I leave the black tank valve open to drain as it goes, and close the grey water to save it up to flush the black tank? The fresh water I'm thinking I will fill up, then disconnect the hose on an as needed basis. I will keep the fresh water hose inside, frozen hoses are no fun. Should I keep the fresh water tank 3/4 full in case of a deep cold so it doesn't burst? Thanks for all the helpful advice! Blessings, Greg
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Hello ClayL, I purchased a '94 Dutchmen Classic 26 foot trailer yesterday from the orgininal owners. The trailer is meticulous. I figured it was best to start with a trailer to see what my needs actually are after full timing for a while. I can always upgrade to a Class A later. Do you or anyone know how the Dutchmen Classic will handle the winters? I'm thinking I may have to get a couple
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Hello, I just took possession of a 1994 Dutchmen Classic 26 foot trailer today! Bought it from the original owner, the trailer is immaculate and very clean! Very well kept and all service records, even the factory recommended services were done to the recommendations on the dot!. The owners are impeccable about their property, their house is simple but beautiful! Even their car and truck are very clean and waxed. I like to purchase used things that costs a lot of money like the trailer from folks who take care of their things. The trailer has the forward kitchen, has a newer $4k Honda 4010 generator, new tires, and a new awning. They only used it for 3-4 weeks a year (1 week for hunting, the rest to go see their 85 year old parents who have been fulltiming around the country for 25 years and still do!). They upgraded to a new 36 footer, hence why they put the '94 Dutchmen up for sale. The lady said she likes the old trailer better than the new one. They are sad to see it go, but they know I will be taking very good care of it, as I'm an impeccable person myself. Today I also rented a lot in Golden, CO for a month and I will be living in it full time very soon. Possibly this weekend! As soon as I can pack up small stuff, I can get moved, but need to sell/give away some furniture and a apartments worth of things I won't be able to take with me. I still have this month left here at the old place. I may just rent a uHaul and put stuff in storage for now. I'm going from about 550 SqFt to about 200 SqFt. I don't have much stuff for a single guy, just the big things like furniture concern me. The 37" flat screen TV I will probably mount on a corner wall above the very "tiny" entertainment center which is big enough for maybe a 20" old boob tube TV and stands maybe a foot and a half tall. I think they make flat screen wall mounts that swivel and can be moved side to side...I can use the teeny entertainment center for the DVD player. Other than that, it's just small stuff I have and I can get creative and organized. The leather couch and 2 Lazy Boy chairs I will probably give them to my sister so her and her hubby have a place to sit in their kids playroom. My Queen bed, I dunno what to do with that! I just bought it 2 years ago and it's comfy! Probably storage until I can do some modifications to the bedroom in the RV, which is currently set up for a twin bed on each side, but the bath is in the very back of the trailer. There's still a queen size sleeper sofa in the living room, I'd rather keep that as strictly a sofa, unless guests stay the night. Even though I have been studying and thinking about fulltiming for a little over a year now, I still have a lot to learn about RVing and full timing. I'm more of a hands on learner, and experiencing it with my new rig is how I will learn. I read a lot about the subject every night after work, but each situation is unique- as unique as the rig type (for make/model) and their owners! Everybody has their way of doing things. I noticed today the trailer hookups are 45 amps for the power inverter, most places are either 30 amp or 50 amp. I'm very mechanically inclined, can fix pretty much anything, but electrical is my weakest point! Park I'm renting a monthly lot at is 50 amp, hope I can still hookup and not fry anything. I do have two Monster brand surge protector outlet strips for things like the TV/DVD, and my laptop. On the humor side, I sure hope I don't have any sewer hook up issues! I would be mortified (and more likely to mess up!) if folks got their lawn chairs out to watch me hook it all up wrong and wait for the ultimate disaster! Like in the Robin William's movie RV! Hehe! I'm a very mechanically inclined kinda guy. I'm only 33 years old, and I've been craving a simple lifestyle for years. Not married, no kids. Just me and the poochie, who's my "kid." Rent for an apartment just keeps going up and up around the Denver area, it's ridiculous, plus leases I'm not a fan of. I'd rather be free as a bird from any kind of contracts and live the simple lifestyle. I love the fact that lot rentals are month to month, and I can simply hook up, lower the jacks, and leave as I wish and go where I want to! A bonus too is that I work for a national company, so transferring is easy for me when a promotion should occur. I originally wanted to go with a used Class A gas MH for about $20k, but I decided its best to start with a trailer, see how it works out with the $5,500 trailer I just got,, and go from there. I can always upgrade if I need to. Plus a Class A needs to be driven regularly to keep the maintenance/repair costs down, right now a trailer makes sense to me as I will only be moving it short distances as I see to fit my needs. Thankfully, the really nice folks I purchased the RV from have been RV'ers their whole lives and are more than happy to spend a day this weekend and show me how to hook it up and go through everything! They bought this unit new, and they've been RVing since they were little kids. They are in their 50's, between the two of them, that's about 100 years experience, I like that! They are even willing to tow it to my new site! This friendliness makes me anxious to become a full timer! I love the fact that RVers are much more friendlier neighbors than a typical apartment or stick house dweller. I'm very excited to starting this new lifestyle! Meet some new folks and friends! If you're in Golden, CO, we should meet up sometime! Greg
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Aztec7fan, Thank you for the reply! I will definitely check out the park you recommended! Barr Lake Campground is a little high at $525/mo. Though they are 15 minutes away from work, that's a bit higher than I want to spend. As far as MH financing, I may have to put down $1-2k to get started. I've yet to talk to any lenders. I haven't financed anything in the last 5 years, the car is paid off, I don't have CC debt and haven't even owned a CC for a long time, motorcycle is paid for too. I write a check for rent, cell phone, car insurance, and pay cash for other living expenses such as groceries or fun $$. I live basic, and I like it that way. I only buy what I need, and say if I have to buy a new battery or tires for my car, I pay cash. I jokingly tell folks who ask about my credit that my score is probably ZERO! Hehe...it's been a long time! I figure why pay rent with a lease contract, and be stuck, and repeat the same old process year after year, when I can finance a MH, and after 5 years or so its paid off? And I can always simply turn the key and go as I wish and hope for those $300 monthly lot rentals plus elec. I better go to bed now! Work tmw. I'm having too much fun on this forum! I'm glad the folks here are awesome and very helpful and friendly. One reason I want to become a Fulltimer, they are friendly folks and so am I, and I can't wait to officially join! Have a Wonderful Night! Blessings, Greg
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Hello Kay, Thank you! I loved your response! Yes, being single at 33 years old with no kids...and living apartment life is no fun. Now that I'm in a townhome, its still the same. Same old people and never meet anyone interesting. And stuck with a lease contract gets old, which is why I got a month to month on the townhome in a valley and same story. My neighbors are boring! Like apts, they keep to themselves and are too selfish to even say "hi," they just do their own thing. I've helped out a few neighbors before, yet I can't get a hand to help with something heavy that will take 5 mins...even if I offer some beer and dinner...it's all "about them." I don't know what's wrong with people in general, but when I moved here last spring and tried to unload the pickup with a couch and a dirtbike, folks would just stroll by and not even ask if I needed a hand. I didn't have a helper beforehand, I figured a neighbor would be able to help me. Nope, I got the couch inside by myself, and the dirtbike I nearly broke my back and legs getting it off the truck myself, with no ramps! But I did it and didn't drop it! I'm not too fond of city folks who are selfish. I've met tons of RVers and they would be happy to lend a hand and with a smile! I would do the same without hesitating! City folks just don't have the right mentality! I'd love to have a diesel MH to full time in, but they are out of my budget right now. While I'm very mechanically inclined, I do not have a lot of diesel experience but I do know they cost a lot more to maintain and are more complex to figure out. I could figure it out myself if I came across an issue, but I just don't want the added expense of a diesel to maintain right now. One day I would love to have one, the power plus air brakes! I also know a diesel is only happy being driven, the less miles the worse they get. A gas one makes more sense to me, as I would only put maybe 8-12k miles on it a year. I gotta start simple, that means a gas engined one for around $25k or less. I only make around $35k a year with my job, and being single with no kids and 33 years old, I'd like to keep the expenses down to be able to add to my savings account/retirement fund and still enjoy the good life. I will have to finance a MH though, but once paid off, all I will have to deal with is lot rent. Either way, I figure it is still worth it as rent is high in the Denver Metro-Mess area, why not go the MH way, and no rental contracts meaning I'm stuck in once place for a year with a lease? I can deal with a MH payment for 5 years and a lot rental, after the rig is paid off, its cheap living as far as no payment and only monthly lot rentals. If its time to move (job transfer, new job, or I don't like the place I'm at, all I gotta do is start the engine and move on without being tied to a lease or a mortgage. I've owned houses before and a $1500/mo mortgage I am not a big fan of. If a situation changes, well, its a hassle until the house sells. Lease contracts are equally annoying. I'm simply not a big fan of being tied in. I'd rather be free as a bird! . "If you don't like it, put the key in, start the engine and move on!" Blessings, Greg
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Hello, Folks. I'm new here and thought I would introduce myself. My name is Greg. I've been thinking seriously for the last two years about buying a motorhome and fulltiming. I've been reading the different forums, studying the topics of motorhomes, fulltiming, maintenence, the lifestyle, etc, I spend a quite a bit of time studying the topic every night. A little about me, I'm 33 years young, single, with a dog who is like a kid to me. I work full time for an internet auto salvage company with locations nationwide and a few in Canada too. I currently work at the location in Brighton, Colorado. I'm tired of apartments and moving to a new apartment or house every year or so (and their associated lease contract), and would like to be able to "just start the engine" and move my "house" to where I desire. I love to take long weekend trips to see new sights and I am especially fond of the Black Hills area. I also have some friends down in TX and AZ that I would love to see every few months. Besides long road trips, I'm a weekend warrior who will drive up to the mountains of CO every weekend and "camp out" and check out new sights. I am interested in purchasing a nice '99-01 Damon Challenger 330 with the Ford chassis. I have a lifelong friend with a Damon Challenger 330 who has been a full timer with his coach for 10 years and is extremely happy with it. I like the floor plan, the basement storage, and what the coach has to offer. Any thoughts as to the Damon Challenger's of these years? Pro's and con's? Is it able to withstand winter's here in Colorado? Anyone who has or had a '99-'01 Damon Challenger please let me know how it was! I plan to do most of the maintenance and minor repairs myself as I'm a pretty handy type of person. I used to be a mechanic and have worked half of my life with either vehicles or in the construction business. I will have to finance the MH, which I figure for the $16k-$25k price range for a Challenger 330 shouldn't be too bad for a loan, I hope for around a $250-300 max MH payment over 7-10 years, once its paid off I'm free to go where I want Another issue I've come across while researching is a monthly lot to rent while working close to my work. The cheapest, decent place I've found so far is $525/mo at Barr Lake Campground in Brighton, which is only 15 minutes away from work. I currently commute from Castle Rock, CO and it is about 125 miles round trip daily to work. $110+/wk on gas and with all the road construction going on in the Denver Metro-Mess Area, plus the traffic jams, I have to take the toll road to save 90 mins time each way, which is amounting to over $400/mo for tolls. That and gas, $800-900/mo I could put towards living in a MH fulltime close to work while keeping my sanity. A decent apt around here is going for $900 or more. I'd rather have my own "home." My toad will be my 2002 Buick Regal LS. I haven't looked into the costs yet of setting it up to be pulled behind the MH for travel. I have no idea what that would cost. I'm ready to get a MH to fulltime in and live the lifestyle and not deal with rent leases and the "chain" of being stuck to a stick house. I'm a simple kinda guy who sticks to the basics and wishes to live a simple lifestyle. Go free as a bird as I wish. That is just me. I can't stand materialistic things, clutter, cable TV, unnecessary bills, collecting thingamajings, I'd rather rent/borrow/or do a book exchange than buy a book that costs money and then just sits around after being read, I'd rather have a Walmart Smart-Trac no-contract cell phone unlimited $45 Internet/data/text plan than my current $95/mo iPhone with a contract (1 more year with that, and I'm done!). I'm much more happy meeting people, making friends, having dinners, sightseeing, those are the things that make life great! Not an apartment or lease where you're stuck till the lease is up and have to deal with crazy neighbors or apt management, etc. I'd rather have the option of turning the key, start up my "home," and drive away as I wish I'd appreciate any feedback as I'm new to this. I would love to become a full timer with my own home and do as I wish! It has been a dream of mine for quite a while now. Blessings, Greg