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Greetings,

I am searching for any PD 4104's that are still around.

It doesn't matter if they are a bus in a museum, a custom or

home built conversion, still a bus or yard art.

Between 1953 & 1960 - 5,065 buses were made. How many

are still around after all these years?

The info I need is:

VIN - so we can track where they started from.

Status: a bus, shell, converted, scrapped,.....

Owner

Location city/state, province.

Info source: FMCA

My completed project will be posted at http://www.busnut.com

Jon Usle

Cajon Pass, CA

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Conversions verified by VIN: 130

Bus noted on web: 24

Scrapped busses 22 - 2 buses hit the scrapyard this week.

Still a bus: 7

Conversion no VIN offered: 6

Total of 199 buses accounted for, leaving

4,866 buses to find.

Jon

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Greetings all, May 28, 2012 update

Thanks to Len Silva 32 new VINs were added to the list with a total of 67 more this week.

The converted coach list is as follows:

1953-27

1954-12

1955-06

1956-16

1957-31

1958-26

1959-21

1960-31

unknown or no vin offered -33

Still a bus -08

Noted on the web-39 (Lens list clarified a few of these)

Scrapped -23

This weeks total is-273

Leaving 4792 to find

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Thank you for your info. Your bus was part of a 25 bus order by Public Service Coordinated Transport. Your original dleet # was K-606.

I will add your bus to my master list. With the addition of your bus, I have 19 conversions from 1956 and would you believe that 4 of your 25 bus order are converted.

Jon

Siberyd

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Happy New Year, January 2,2013 update

The converted coach list is as follows:

1953-32

1954-14

1955-07

1956-18

1957-37

1958-29

1959-27

1960-34

unknown or no vin offered -35

Still a bus -14

Noted on the web 38

Scrapped -23

This weeks total is-311

Leaving 4754 to find

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February 8, 2013

Converted coaches

1953-34

1954-14

1955-08

1956-20

1957-38

1958-31

1959-29

1960-35

Still a bus 14

VIN noted on web 37

Scrapped 27

4744 of 5065 to find

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February 8, 2013

Converted coaches

1953-34

1954-14

1955-08

1956-20

1957-38

1958-31

1959-29

1960-35

Still a bus 14

VIN noted on web 37

Scrapped 27

4744 of 5065 to find

Go to Google and try this search:

4104 and bus site:craigslist.org

I think you will enjoy the results.

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Rob and Terri,

Thank you for your VIN, I will add it to the surviving 4104 list. Yours makes the first number this month. We are up to about 300 converted coaches and 12 seated coaches.

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I have a converted 1959 GMC (PD-4104 - 4188)

Motor has been rebuilt. I don't want it to go to scrap and have it for sale. It may be that parts are the only thing left for it. I don't know.

Located: Everson, WA (but was registered in BC for Many years)

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Thanks for your info, there is a bus forum called busnut.com

You can post your bus for free there. How much do you want for your coach. Send pics and particulars to me at

jusle@aol.com

Jon

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I have a 1958 that I just started trying to get back on the road it was converted to an RV in the 80s then parked for 14 years, it's in bad shape but worth saving. Vin # is PD41043883 it's not in my name yet but will be in a few months unless I give up on all this work that's ahead. Thank's Quain Stott Columbus N.C.

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Jon, was wondering if you could provide any information on a 1951 4103-057 bus that I currently own and am converting into a motorhome.....

I believe the bus was originally sold to the Tenn. Coach Company back in 1951 as a Trailways Bus.......

Thanks ....

Steve from Florida

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http://www.omot.org/buses.htm

Hi Steve,

I don't have that delivery list, but a friend of mine does.

I forwarded your information request to him and will advise when I get it. Have you requested a final vehicle record for your coach yet? Go to the above website and mail them $25.00. They will send the results within about 3 weeks.

Jon

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PD4103-057 was delivered new in March of 1951 as fleet number 614 to Tennessee Coach Co, HQ'd in Knoxville, TN. Don't have any further ownership info other than original.

BTW, my delivery roster covers all GMC Parlor Coaches from November of 1939 thru July of 1980. Have supplements for the Scenicruiser, but it only shows division and fleet numbers, plus a roster of 4905s that were delivered new with the optional V-730.

FWIW & HTH. . .

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I have a1959 4104 conversion that i would like to add to your list. Maybe find out it's history. I'm not sure where to find the vin #.. Also, I am needing glass for the door window, as vandals smashed it. Can you give me an idea where to find this. I live near Kamloops, B.C.

Stevo. I

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Steve,

The VIN/ serial number can be found in one of 3 places:

On your vehicle registration

on the dash

or stamped on the frame inside the compartment under the drivers position. The number will look like 4104-1620, 1620 being the build number.

Side glass, is tempered glass you can get at any automotive glass shop. Just try to remove the existing glass carefully so they may make a copy.

Windshield glass is different as well as rear window glass which is no longer manufactured.

Jon

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Steve,

The VIN/ serial number can be found in one of 3 places:

On your vehicle registration

on the dash

or stamped on the frame inside the compartment under the drivers position. The number will look like 4104-1620, 1620 being the build number.

Side glass, is tempered glass you can get at any automotive glass shop. Just try to remove the existing glass carefully so they may make a copy.

Windshield glass is different as well as rear window glass which is no longer manufactured.

Jon

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