sundance44

Yep, Campcop, that is an unacceptable solution as I am unwilling to use either a dolly or trailer, flat tow only. I knew this was a reach when I asked the question but since my preferred solution is to flat tow the Sienna I thought I wouldn't have anything to loose. Maybe someone has a little known miracle in their pocket. Thanks for your comment, nevertheless.

I have a like new, 12,900 miles, 2014 Toyota Sienna XLE V6 Front Wheel Drive, that I would dearly love to flat tow. I really love my Sienna and have not been able to find a towable that suits me nearly as well. Blue Ox makes a base plate but the real issue, as far as I can determine, is the Sienna transmission. Remco makes a lube pump for this vehicle but from what I have learned, based on inputs from several RV forums and RV Service Centers that are no longer willing to install this pump, the Remco pump is now highly problematic. The feedback that I have got is that the quality, like a lot of things, has gone downhill over the last few, 5 or so, years. I am highly adverse to risk and I don’t want to install this pump and have to deal with problems that I could/should have avoided in the first place. Of course, that begs the question, why do I own a motor home? My question for this audience is as follows: is there any option to the Remco lube pump that will allow me to make my Sienna towable 4 down (flat tow)? Thank you in advance for your feedback.

Hey greenbarn1, I am in the planning stage, very slow planning stage, of acquiring a 2014 CR-V to use as a toad. I have done significant research on towing Honda's with 4 down. I have a 2009 Honda Civic Sedan with auto trans that this board was adamant/unanimous in informing me I shouldn't consider towing 4 down. But to your point regarding stopping every 3 hours and letting the engine run; is this to maintain a good charge level in the battery, to maintain lubrication of the transmission, both or some other factors? sundance

Okay you bunch of hard core old fa--s, you have beat me up one side, down the other and somewhere in between questioned my intellect/sanity. So, just to prove you all wrong I'm going to move on to the CR-V. Now keep this on the QT, the CR-V is the vehicle I desired all along but now I have leveraged you guys to convince my wife we couldn't tow the Honda Civic but will now have to replace with a CR-V. So for that I guess I am indebted. BTW Manholt, you asked what the on my Tuscany was rated at it is indeed a 10,000 lb rated hitch. Well guys we had a lot of fun here and arrived at a consensus. So sharpen your wit and your tongues and have soon as I finished licki8ng my wounds I'll be back to get advice and guidance on the CR-V, a 2014 is my objective. In all sincerity I really appreciate each and everyone of you for taking the time try to point me in the right direction. Not quite so sure the wife is going to appreciate me spending the money on a CR-V but that's where you guys come-in. sundance44

Thanks for your feedback, I am not dismissing your advice as yet. I know that many, actually probably most, individuals on the various RV forums feel the same as you with regard to towing this vehicle. However, there are more than one or two individuals out there who have towed this same vehicle for an extended period of time with no problems. What I am trying to do here is differentiate between truth and fiction. If there is a unique approach wherein this car can be towed I would truly prefer doing so, in as much as I already own the vehicle. However, if the consensus is that towing this vehicle is foolhardy I won't continue to bloody my head on the wall. Thank you for your feedback, even if I'd prefer not to hear it. Please stay tuned and let's see if anyone can provide an approach that would make towing this vehicle realistic.

Let me preface this by saying that I am a NEWBIE to motorhome RVing. I had many years with a travel trailer but this is my first experience with a motor coach. My wife, read boss, and I have concluded that we need a toad/dingy in order to enjoy the freedom and flexibility that we desire. We have a low mileage, 35,500, 2009 Honda Civic Sedan with Automatic transmission that we have concluded we should use as our toad. Now I am fully aware that Honda says this vehicle is only to be towed in emergency situations and for limited mileage if being flat towed or 4 down. However, as a result of significant internet research I have concluded the risk is minimal if done intelligently; and that is where this audience comes into play, hopefully. I plan to towing my 2009 Honda Civic behind my Class A 2016 Thor Tuscany XTE 34 ST. Equipment I have identified as being necessary or prudent is as follows: 1. Seven (7) Pin Tail Light Warning Kit. I see where Mike L at etrailer.com seems to prefer the Hopkins Universal Tail Light Wiring Kit. 2. Base Plate, which as I understand is hardware that mounts to the toad and enables a connection point for the tow bar. 3. Class IV, 10,000 lb Tow Bar. I know 10,000 lbs is overkill but, for me, I feel more comfortable with the additional margin. The margin could come in handy if I wanted to tow a larger vehicle. 4. Class IV, 10,000 Lb Safety Cable Kit. The safety cables seem to be included with some of the tow bar systems I have seen. 5. Drop Receiver Hitch. My guess is that I would need about a 4” drop to level out the attach points Auxiliary Braking System. I am currently leaning towards the RVibrake2 Battery Charging System for Toad. RVi sells one for $50.00 or less. I feel the inclusion of the battery charger is good risk mitigation. Okay guys, here is your design opportunity. Fire away, no comment/detail too small. Tell me how you would do it. Thanks in advance. Sundance44