bburns8
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30 minutes ago, rossboyer said:The buttons are in the center of the outlet. One is test and the othrr is reset. Possibly you are looking at the non-GFI outlet that is in the same bin.
ok, I will check tomorrow.
29 minutes ago, rossboyer said:Also, you may find a GFI outlet in the wet bay ceiling. It is used to put a light bulb or heater in very cold weather to prevent freezing.
Ok, will check it out.
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1 hour ago, rossboyer said:I have a 37U from Fleetwood. In the third from the front bin on the passenger side is another GFI in the ceiling of that bin. Try resetting it.
Thanks, I located the GFI in the bin but I do not see anything to reset.
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31 minutes ago, kaypsmith said:Are you on a campground pedestal, or at home? Also, have you started the generator to see if anything changes?
Pedestal. Yes, started generator let it run for about 30 min and no change.
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49 minutes ago, DickandLois said:Is you coach shore power wired for 30 or 50 amp shore power?
Rich.
50 amp
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38 minutes ago, DickandLois said:Your coach has an Inverter / Charger ! Xantrex 454 series - 20 / 20. Two circuit breakers are built into the output of the unit .
If you have the electrical wiring, the circuits affected would be # 2 and # 4 . dining area and entertainment equipment and or the Microwave power. this is a common configuration.
The Last post, would indicate that the problem is a tripped 30 amp / push to reset power input breaker to the inverter / charger !
Rich.
I pushed the reset power on the input breaker to the inverter/charger but still no change.
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28 minutes ago, wolfe10 said:Is it fed by an inverter-- in the past when it worked, could run run things on those outlets when not on shore power or generator?
If so, check resettable breakers on the inverter/charger.
As you can see, since we don't know exactly how your electrical system is layed out there is some guessing.
Yes, it is fed by inverter. I have checked the breakers on the inverter/charger and turned the breakers off and back on. I forgot to explain what triggered this. There was a buffer plugged and being used into the outside outlet on the MH and I turned on the microwave and that's when we lost power to the microwave, both TV's, fridge, GFI, and some outlets. Prior to this everything worked when on and off shore power.
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Tested the GFI and no power IN or OUT.
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32 minutes ago, DickandLois said:Black is the Hot side - Low is Neutral - green is ground.
No power to the from the main power panel breakers in a 50 amp, or a 30 amp sub panel or main power panel in a 30 amp coach. Then you have to look at the output circuit on the power Inverter.
If you could post the Make , Model and Year of your coach would help.
Rich.
2001 Fleetwood Discovery 37U DP
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The GFI outlet has 2 black, 2 white and 2 ground copper wires. Which one is the power IN and OUT?
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30 minutes ago, wolfe10 said:NO
Turn the outlet breakers OFF and back ON. Still no power.
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47 minutes ago, wolfe10 said:Turn OFF and back ON the outlet breakers in your 120 VAC breaker panel.
When I turn off and back on the outlet breakers do I need to turn everything off and unplug from shore power?
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I lost power to some outlets, no power to TV in living room and bedroom, no power to fridge and there is no power to the GFCI outlet and I cannot reset.
Any advise on what would cause no power to the GFCI outlet?
Thank you
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Any ideas what might cause the 12.25v reading I'm getting on my house batteries (new batteries, new battery cables, voltage tested in series) when unplugged from shore power, Inverter ON, Charger ON and no load?
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On 12/28/2017 at 5:09 PM, DickandLois said:Would the sound still be coming from the transformer even when I turned off the inverter and charger?
YES, The reason is AC power is going into the unit from either the line directly or through the 30 amp breaker in the power panel. There should be no buzz when not connected to shore power or when the circuit breaker feeding the unit is off.
Do check the ground copper wire to the unit is tight as well as the ground points / connections at the breaker box and the chassis frame. That should not change things, but it is always good the check them - things just giggle loose driving down the road.
Rich.
Thank you Rich.
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1 hour ago, DickandLois said:Went back to read your original post. The Inverter / Charger is OEM equipment.
So - the humming sound is being generated from the transformer. After time the steel plates used to make the transformer start to vibrate / buzz. This is caused by the brake down of the lacquer used to isolate them. It do not effect the operation of the system, but they do buzz. No real fix for that problem - for the majority of owners or even the service centers. Should you send the unit back to Xantrex - they could replace the transformer. The Total cost of the labor and shipping gets to a point close to replacing it.
So I would just use it until it has electrical issues and then replace it. Think you will find it is a 2500 Watt / Modified sine-wave unit. They are still in production and used frequently in many new coaches. The Pure sine wave units are more expensive, but do have the ability to be used with the newer electronic equipment that use Computer style circuits and control systems.
Hope this information helps answer your question(s).
Rich.
Thank you Rich. I appreciate it.
Would the sound still be coming from the transformer even when I turned off the inverter and charger?
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There is a humming sound coming from the inverter/charger.
I'm plugged into shore power and turned off the inverter the sound is still there. I turned off the inverter and turned the charger off but the humming sound is still there.
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10 hours ago, wolfe10 said:Would suggest your next call be to the technical support department of your inverter/charger manufacturer. If possible, do it from the coach so you can let them listen to the sound.
Also, have written down:
Shore power voltage (120 VAC ideal)
House batter bank voltage
Any readings from the inverter/charger remote control panel.
Thank you Wolfe10.
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10 hours ago, DickandLois said:Recheck the series / parallel wiring for the house batteries and that the battery wires for the chassis 12 volt batteries are correct. I did rewire mine wrong one time and the charger was not happy. Humbling experience, but if one places there fingers into a mouse trap enough times it will get you.
Rich.
Thanks Rich. I'll recheck.
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8 hours ago, BillAdams said:So try this. Unplugged from shore power, Inverter OFF, Charger OFF (even though charger does nothing without shore or generator power).
12.25V is a reading for a battery that is about 1/2 discharged. 12V is dead and something around 12.6ish would be fully charged, no load, and not on a charger.
I had tested the batteries in series when I was unplugged from shore power with the Inverter OFF, Charger OFF and I had a 12.88v.
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I meant inverter/charger. Yes, there is a on/off button for the charger and a on/off button for the inverter on the inverter/charger itself and a on/off button for the inverter inside the coach.
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When plugged into shore power we are now hearing a high pitched electrical whine from the converter, regardless of load, and it's not the fan. I'm plugged into shore power, inverter OFF, charger ON.
Has anyone experienced this? Any ideas what's causing this?
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Unplugged from shore power, inverter ON charger ON
Voltage at house banks batteries tested in series: 12.25v - There was no load when tested.
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I replaced my 4 house batteries a week ago and replaced the 4 battery cables today.
Here is the voltage readings I am getting now in series on the house batteries.
Unplugged from shore power, inverter OFF charger OFFVoltage at house banks batteries tested in series: 12.88v
Unplugged from shore power, inverter ON charger ON
Voltage at house banks batteries tested in series: 12.25v
Plugged into shore power, inverter ON charger ON
Voltage at house banks batteries tested in series: 14.38v
Please advise is these voltage readings are normal?Thank you.
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I have no idea. The only information I can find on the cables is Essex 1/0GASEJ1127TYPESGT105C.
Doing a little research online it's a 1/0 wire size so I'll probably stay with that or go to a 2/0.
GFCI Outlet No Power
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There are 2 regular outlets in the bin. They did not install a GFI.
In the wet bay is a regular outlet as well.
There is a GFI outlet in the bedroom. I reset it but still no power.