Mdrouin Report post Posted July 8, 2017 We are planning a trip for late July and part of it we will be going to Toronto. We will be in Wisconsin and may head up to Winnipeg and travel back to Toronto through Canada. I use Goodsams online travel planner to plan a trip and generally I use 400 to 500 miles per day with a goal to drive from 8:00 am until 4:00 maybe 5:00 PM. The issue I see is on CA 17, 421 miles shows 9-1/2 hours of driving. Is 17 that slow and or congested? Any comments or feedback on this leg of our trip would be great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianbullock Report post Posted July 8, 2017 We have travelled the route several times on our way to BC. Very scenic but yes it is a very slow route, mainly because it is mostly a 2 lane highway, lots of truck traffic, 80-90 km/hr speed limit, and limited passing opportunities. it is also quite hilly in spots which really slows the truck traffic. You should also be mindful of the higher price of fuel in Northern Ontario. Gas is currently funning around $1.12 to 1.21 a liter. (there are 3.78 Liters in a US gallon) So you can expect to spend more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbutler Report post Posted July 8, 2017 CA 17 runs across every stream entering Lake Superior in that area. Great scenery but as Ian said, it is hilly and slow. If you are looking for scenery, there are some great stops, waterfalls, petroglyphs, Provincial Parks, etc. At Sault Sainte Marie you can quickly cross into the US to refuel and restock with groceries, etc. We also enjoyed touring around the Sault Sainte Marie area, the locks and the lake freighter tour on the US side are interesting. There is also a train route on the Canadian side, up north, a day trip up and back to an area with waterfalls. It gives you a nice look at the remote countryside. There is much to see if you have the time. The Sudbury area is the heart of nickel mining and a stop at the Big Nickel, a mining and refining museum is very interesting. East of Toronto, we love the London, Cambridge, Stratford (on the Avon River), on down to the southern tip of Canada at Point Pelee National Park. From Windsor, you can re-enter the US by driving north into Detroit! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbutler Report post Posted July 8, 2017 Just a quick note, disregard if you are experienced at border crossing into Canada and back to the US. You will have to go through Customs at each border crossing. There are rules about what you can take with you from one country to the other. Alcohol, tobacco and firearms are almost standard questions going into Canada. You also have to clear US customs on the return to the US. Be prepared, US Customs and Border Protection and Canada Border Services Agency web sites have the needed information. You will need US passports for each person on board to cross each time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites