retiredblade

At the beginning they offered me also $1,500. towards a dolly, that wasn't what I wanted. I looked at the Sonic, it looks at lot like the Cruze, tad bit smaller, but I didn't like the appointments inside it (dashboard). Also been reading about Fords tranny problems, this one couple burnt out three transmissions, Ford replaced them each time, after the third they went through their states lemon law and got rid of the car. I'm just guessing, maybe Ford thought it was cheaper to replace the transmissions, hoping that the third time folks would use the lemon law thus relieving them of replacing anymore? Who knows? Ford does!

First of all, when I had the Cruze, I delayed buying a baseplate, something in my spirit said to hold off, I did. No, I don't think I got snookered, I hang around my buddies auto body shop, and you should see the fairly new cars with rusted fender wheel wells and rocker panels, I thought the same thing like you. We use a lot of road salt in Pennsylvania. The problem on the Cruze on 4 wheel down towing? Have you been reading the forums over the summer? Big problem, many, many have burnt up tranmissions. The manual originally said you could tow 4 wheels down, that's why we bought a Cruze, it is a real nice car. Then a few months later, when this thing was coming to a head, we owners got a supplement to our owners manual with a letter saying you can't tow 4 wheels down, if you do, your warranty will be null and void. As far as legal action, don't know if anyone has started a class action, that is why GM is settling with Cruze owners. Besides, who gets richer when a lawyer is engaged? Certainly not the one who hires him. If you have a Cruze and are not towing or going to tow it 4 wheels down, keep the Cruze! It is a real nice car! GM hit a home run with this car. Yes, I had to pay a little more for the Regal, but, wow! it is a much, much better car! Did I answer your questions?

I dragged a Saturn around with a rock guard for years, but it was one of those kind that looked like of bunch of stiff nylon strings, can seem to fine one of those, it came with my 93 Bounder. You can't beat a Saturn to tow, it's 3 speed tranny seemed almost indestructable! I put a solid rock guard on my pusher, going to tow a Buick Regal and I read things about that solid rock guard not letting air get to the toad. Well, I'm not taking a chance, so I took the rock guard off, when I towed my Jeep Wrangler, it didn't matter. I'm going to error on the side of caution!

After weeks of dealing with GM concerning the Chevy Cruze 4 wheels down problem, and reading on 3 RV forums of other folks having the same problem ... I have finally settled. I believe GM is doing their best to put this problem to bed, not wanting a class action launched against them. My local dealer now owns my Cruze. GM applied everything I paid for the Cruze on the 2011 Buick Regal that I chose. I only lost $400 in paint clear coating and undercoating -- they did give me undercoating at dealer cost this time, so I will write off the $400 as rental for 5 months, $80/month ... not bad at all. I did have to come up with more money, but it was worth it. The Buick is a way better car compared to the Cruze. It is towable 4 wheels down. My wife didn't like the way the Cruze handled but loves the way the Regal handles -- what a difference! If Mom is happy, then I remain happy. I would like to thank GM, and I know they read these forums, and I would like to thank my dealership, which did a excellent job. I would buy another GM product and I will go to the same dealership. I hope everyone else caught in this same Cruze situation gets the same treatment and a satisfactory ending.

I'm going to request a letter like that when I get that V6 Regal, which they told me is towable 4 wheels down, GM, if they ever had any, is, IMHO, starting to lose their credibility

I had a Bounder with a 454 Chevy engine. It flat out moved on flat land, but going up the mountains, pulling a toad, I thought the engine was going to come out of the thing and no power! So, I bought my present motor home, a pusher and what a difference in ride, handling, and power! Goes up the mountains with my toad, passing 18 wheelers, down the hills using pacbrake and don't even have to touch the foot brakes! Lots of room for Wintering and not getting cabin fever like the Bounder. Get 8 mpg, oil change every year or 15,000 miles. Yes, up keep is more expensive, filters, oil, tires, everything, but you're a long time dead, might as well indulge yourself! I have to admit, and I'm sure you know, a motor home does not appreciate every year like a house, it depreciates like a car.

It seems that the dealers are adding added confusion to this towing situation! I got a call from the salesman I deal with at my Buick/Chevrolet dealer yesterday,and he said the 2012 Buick Regal are Not towable. So where do we find out the truth? GM puts out manuals saying it is towable fours wheels down then sends us letters they are not. I wished I had never bought a GM product, I don't need all this.

Is anyone on the forum towing a 2011 Buick Lacrosse or Regal 4 wheels down?

Wow! That's a shocker! I am looking a LaCrosse and Regal (2011) because they are 4 wheels down towable. Now, I'm gun-shy!

I have never tried one, heard about them, they seem to do the job. But if your considering one for a Chevy Cruze, you will have to wait 60-90 days, that is what they told me. They are currently testing a pump for the Cruze, they were told that the Cruze was towable 4 wheels down so they didn't make a pump for it, why would they? But Cruze, as we owners all know, it not towable, and here we are waiting for GM to make it right, will they? Has anyone settled up with them yet? Would like to know, I have been waiting and waiting all week for the ok from my GM reps boss, he is either in a meeting, out to lunch or just plain won't answer his phone. Sounds like foot dragging to me. Frankly, I think they better get this thing settle, hear rumblings of a class action.

It is a mess, and a lot of us are swimming around in this mess like you. I also have been promised a buy out, and I appreciate it because it is the only way out that I can see, don't want a tow dolly, I don't care what they cost. At present, working on getting another car, I will have to shell out more money but what is the alternative?

You're right. GM rep told me that GM doesn't recommend Remco because they don't make a pump for the Cruze. I said I know that, Remco told me after finding out, and I did E mail them with the news that Cruze could not be towed 4 wheels down. They, later E mailed me and said they are testing a pump and would take 60-90 days, and that I would be put on a list and notified later. Why should Remco have had a pump for Cruze, Chevy Cruze was listed as 4 wheels down towable? He said, do you want to wait until the testing is done? I said what about exchanging to another car, that I had heard some are. He said he would get back to me, yesterday, never did. What a mess, what a problem. I have heard that the 2012 Chevy Sonic, which is 200 lbs lighter than the Cruze, is towable, but that might be proved wrong and I'm not going through this again!

As a owner of a 2011 Cruze, bought it to tow 4 wheels down. I also am fighting with GM, so far, got the insert to put into my manual over the old page stating that it is not towable 4 wheels down and if you do you will damage the transmission and void the warranty. I believe the transmission 6T40 is the culprit. I'm waiting to hear if they will take the car back, I don't want the tow dolly either. Bring back Saturns!! You hear me GM? You blew it and you know it (they read these posts, folks)!!

I have a Freedom 458 combi inverter/charger. Now this other thing is a WFCO Ultra 3 Deckmount converter WF-9800 series mod WF9865. The wiring schematic shows a 110 v plug in the back, the chassis is grounded. It show Neg side wire goes to ground bar then to neg side on 12v Battery, Pos side goes to distribution panel power center then to pos side of battery. Only trouble is, my ground side is wired ok, but positive side, instead of going to distribution center, goes directly to the positive side of the battery. How do you figure that? All I can figure that is when shore power is plugged in it gets its 110 volts and charges the house batteries, by passing everything. It looks like a add on, I don't think National put it on. Looking at the manual I download, it's wired wrong but I see no sense in having it if the inverter/charger is doing its job.

I don't think mine is wired to charge the chassis batteries, I have two solar panels by each a/c that is suppose to do that. I turned both master switches off, coach and chassis, and put a little 1 amp trickle charger on the chassis batteries to keep them up, after a few days, it seems the charge is feeding to the house batteries, hence water laying around the caps of the batteries. So I took the trickle charger off and throw a volt meter on it every week to check on the charge, last I checked it was 12.50 volts, going to go out and check again, might put the trick back on. Ran outside and checked with a volt meter, no trickle charger has been on them for over a week: chassis read 12.69 volts, house batteries 14.15 volts. But before I shut the inverter/charger off a month ago I went I to exercise the engine and not enough power to start, it read 11.50 volts, so I charged them up with a external charger, and it started up, no problem next day. Got to thinking again, so I ran out to the compartment where the batteries are and opened the door above the batteries where the fuse/distribution panel and inverter/charger resides, and, I had to get a mirror to read it, it's a wfco 65 amp power converter mod WF9865, positive wire from it going to positive wire on house battery, neg wire from it going to neg wire house battery, wire in back goes to 120v wire coming from the inverter/charger. What the devil it that? Is that like a echo charger, its not going to the chassis battery.

Good information, mine was doing the same while plugged in, sitting in my drive way. So I unplugged, but it kept doing the same, so I got the inverter/charger manual and it said if your motor home is sitting for long periods, shut the inverter/charger off. Not having a "higher end" inverter/charger before, I didn't know you could turn it off, I did. No boil over but not charging, apprently the inverter/charger was running off the batteries when unplugged from shore power,and I found that my chassis battery was draining down so that I couldn't start the coach, even my power boost wouldn't work, guess I will go to the manual again and see what I can figure out, I've always been slow!

You failed to tell us what company you switched to?

Yes they do read them. One of the phone responders told me they went on line and checked around. After sleeping on it, wife and I decided against a tow dolly, never liked the thought of one, again, that is why I bought a Cruze for 4 wheel down towing like my old Saturn. I am going to call them and see if they will either give me cash, or spring for the Remco lube transmission pump. Either way, they have to pay.

I think they smell a class action law suite in the making. I was called today and offered $1,500. towards a tow dolly. I would rather tow 4 wheels down but since I have the Cruze, and I really like it, I believe I will take them up on the offer.

It is official, at least to me, GM just called me to tell me that I cannot tow my Cruze 4 wheels down, I would be getting a letter along with everyone else who has a Cruze stating such. I am going to my dealer to lodge a complaint and see what we can do.

That was a nice thread you put up. I bought my Cruze in March with the intention of outfitting it to tow behind my motor home replacing my Jeep Wrangler. I put off buying the baseplate, told my wife "lets tow the Jeep this winter again". Now hearing and reading that you can tow a Cruze 4 wheel down, then you can't, I called GM, well they told me you can. Then I started hearing of transmissions heating up and having to be replaced. Then read where GM is sending out a supplement to the owners manual stating you can't tow 4 wheels down. Again, I called GM today, haven't hear back. If it's true you can't tow 4 wheels down, I think they are setting themselves up for court action. Maybe us taxpayers should have let them go belly up.

This is really a bummer! That is why I bought a Cruze to tow 4 wheels down. Think I will call GM an belly ache. Guess I will continue to tow my Wrangler.

I just reviewed the installation manual for this system and to me it is the same as my US Gear braking system that I have had for year and have transferred it from my Saturn to my Jeep Wrangler.

On another forum, some were questioning whether a Cruze is towable 4 wheels down. I have a 2011 Cruze and that is why I bought it to tow 4 wheels down. The salesman assured me it was, I read the manual, and it is, but there are things you have to do if you do tow it. It says when stopping for fuel to start the Cruze and run it for 5 mins. to lube the transmission. He says perhaps people aren't doing that and are having problems with the transmission. I called the Chevrolet Marketing Division at 1-800-950-2438 and they gave me the answers to my questions. 2011 is towable 4 wheels down. I asked about the 2012, he didn't know but if one wants to know about the 2012, call this number to see.

I was thinking about remodeling my bathroom in my '94 Bounder, removing the tub, but the tub goes up the sides about a foot and a half. I could make it out of ceramic tile, but the weight is what I worry about. I've done a lot of home bathroom shower/tub areas. I will just have to roll it around a while before making a decision. (Might take a few years!)