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    You might want to tell us the make and model of your leveler system. Electric or hydraulic? Since this is a Winny,  I am assuming that your system is manufactured by HWH and is hydraulic with electric controller.   I learned painfully that the negative side of the electric components is particularly susceptible to playing havoc with HWH systems.

    Start by checking and cleaning the negative terminals of the battery(s) that power the system. Remove negative connector clean and re attach same taking care not to break plastic connectors on terminal used by Winnebago, do not over tighten.

     Next go to pump and relays and check the two or more breaker/fuses at pump. 

    Next remove and clean motor and relay terminal connections one at a time so they are reassembled correctly. I use corrosion preventing product such as Mercury /Quicksilver Corrosion Preventer available at Amazon, on all exposed electrical terminals.

    Winnebago tends to mount the HWH pump lower than the chassis rails, so these components are exposed to moisture stream from front wheels. You might want to put a mud flap or similar device to shield pump and related equipment from moisture and abrasion.  

     If you are comfortable troubleshooting electric circuits, check for voltage at pump relays and other components. HWH has all their model data and specifications on their web site, http://www.hwhcorp.com/

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    4 hours ago, hermanmullins said:

    That is the reason I go to my friendly tire shop. They have the tools and man power to do the job.:P

    Herman

     

    My concern is that most tire service providers have no idea how much torque they are putting on lugnuts. I have asked on several occasions various providers how they calibrate their lug nut pneumatic guns. One replied " no calibration" necessary".   Another indicated "he could tell the torque by how it felt". Another yet indicated " when his compressor was at 120 lbs, his 1" gun had a 500 lbs capacity".    I guess you get the picture, these guys do not know how much torque they are applying. When I had a MH that had 19.5" rims, after tire purchase the rims were over torqued, which later could not removed with out extreme measures and possible damage to hub and rim.

    But I agree with Herman, I take my MH to the "professionals" , especially since I no longer have Superman on my chest.

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    You may have already fixed your tranny by now, but I would recommend W.W.Williams, Atlanta, GA if that is doable. They are great at rebuilding Allisons and they don't break the bank, very professional, massive shop lots of bays, fast work. They  do lot's of RV's., buses and other vehicles utilizing Allisons. They are also a authorized Allison dealer/repair facility. They have multiple locations, check out there web site. http://www.wwwilliams.com/

    Good Luck!

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    23 hours ago, jleamont said:

    RL, usually it is an internal fault in the motor, park is built into the motor, not usually in the governor or module that controls it if yours is equipped that way. I would follow Carl's advice first, Call Winnebago, see if the park function is internal to the motor, then start to seek out a new motor. You do have the option of flipping the switch as close to their proper park position so they are not in your view if you want to save a few $$.

    Tried turning off at park position, did not work. Always returns to outboard position, opposite of park position. otherwise works fine.

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    After having a VP44 pump and lift pump installed on my 02" Journey at Turbo Diesel and Electric in Macon GA. I suddenly had a data link electrical problem which caused my trans check light to come on and the tranny went to "limp" mode. They did not have Allison software and denied that they caused the problem. Spent almost a thousand dollars at Middle GA Freightliner for diagnostics of data link problem that they could not find. (See RV Reveiws.Com) GA for whole story. Check Middle Georgia Freightliner and also Turbo Diesel Electric.  AVOID THESE TWO SERVICE SHOPS, in MACON GA.!!!    

    Now for the GOOD part of this story, I called W. W. Williams, Atlanta after getting screwed over by the fore mentioned company's,  and they fit me in within three days, called me back almost daily status, provided a detailed cost estimate of not only what I brought the MH there for but also other things the found. They almost immediately found the data link problem, within one hour! Dropped the pan on my Allison found dirt in pan, cleaned/flushed housing, removed and overhauled the valve body, replaced some internal parts and internal harness due to age, replaced pan gasket, internal filter, refilled it with TES-295 and changed external filter. They determined the problem I had with check light and limp mode was due to a part of the data link harness was pulled loose and burned/shorted  the cable when it came in contact with hot manifold probably at Turbo Diesel during the pump install. In addition they found a resistor end at another part of the cable had water in it, also probably done at Turbo Diesel Electric when they washed down the engine with water to get fuel they spilled on it. Back on the road again!!!!

    These guys did a great job, fast competent, professional service and they did not break the bank. As a matter of fact they came in sixty dollars under the estimate so I bought with the difference  two gallons of Allison TES-295 trans fluid for $32.00 each, YES you heard me THRITY-TWO dollar per gallon. (Normally retail $58-65 for Allison Approved  product) They also handle Donaldson filters.

    I WILL USE THESE GUYS AGAIN, RECOMMEND THEM HIGHLY!!!!!!
     

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    I have figured out a solution to the problem of monitoring the lift pump operation. I am installing a 0-30psi electric guage in dash and running a three conductor jacketed cable minimum 18 GA. from junction box in front dash area to similar junction in rear chassis area close to primary fuel filter. Running double sensor line 18GA from junction box to primary fuel filter at rear. White connector (ground) to a large copper lead that positively grounds to body of the sensor, the black lead to the sensor terminal.  Installed sensor in snubber valve to reduce pressure surges and installed snubber in special banjo bolt  1/4" drilled and tapped,  installed  banjo bolt replacing stock bolt in outlet of fuel filter (bottom). Wire up sensor to wire to junction box. One lead (white) in junction box will go to negative side of crank battery to insure good ground at sensor, the other lead (black) will go to front dash 35' - 40'  to gauge. The rest of the install is typical for analog gauge. This setup will provide me with a gauge in the dash that will monitor pressure to VP-44 pump real-time and give me a indication as to when to change my primary fuel filter.  All parts were bought from Amazon. Members interested in specific parts list, item numbers, cost, contact me via message.

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    Macon Freightliner, DBA Middle Georgia Freightliner , (MGF) located in Macon Georgia, is a Freightliner Custom Chassis Dealer and Service center as indicated in Freightliners 24/7 APP.   This dealer is over charging and extending service times to discourage RV customers.  Example, I was charged $801.00 to put on a $40.00 fuel line part  Cummins book time is , less than one hour.  Accepting the common practice of doubling the labor time on MH's, the acceptable charge should have been $350.00 more or less. In addition this repair took more than three weeks. Attempt to speak to the service manager and even communication with owner Heath Wood via email was unsuccessful.  To repair a data link transmission problem, they indicated it would cost $3000 plus repair cost for them to remove entire data link cable to find short, ground or other defect. Combined with three hour of diagnostic time for a transmission problem that they did not know how to fix, my total cost for my visit to Middle Georgia Freightliner was over $1200 and five weeks total down time. As for the diagnostics, customer service technician at Freightliner, Gaffney said the diagnostic readings from MGF which I sent to them, from MGF were worthless and indicated either incompetency or a intentional effort to deceive. They also indicated that under no conditions would it be necessary to remove data link cable to repair same. It is clear to me that this dealer service department does not want to work on MH's and over charges them as well as puts other customers in front of them to discourage MH work. 

    UPDATE: Towed MH to W.W. Williams, Atlanta GA, authorized Allison repair center. They diagnosed and repaired data link problem in one hour. Data link cable was pulled loose from securing clip probably during pump install, by Turbo Diesel Electric, Macon and the cable fell down unto engine manifold and burned causing a short. In addition one of the resiter ends was filled with water, probably as a result of Turbo diesel or Middle Georgia washing down engine after fuel leak.

     

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    On 6/1/2016 at 8:12 AM, jleamont said:

    rlbarkleyii, just curious, did they tell you what caused the V44 to fail or are they changing the lift pump for a precaution? How many miles on the coach?

    I was told that the VP44 failed because of poor lube which probably resulted from lift pump not producing proper pressure. IN addition high temperature is thought to have fried the computer in the VP44 pump, again caused by low pressure from the lift pump. 

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    `Have a Cummins I*SB 5.9 and it recently started throwing codes on my ScanGauge. Showed code 254 continually. went to Cummins and had it put on Insite System, they tell me I need a lift pump and V 44 pump, 10 hours labor @ 129.00, $2800 for the re-manufactured  OEM V-44 pump, $200 for OEM lift pump. Total bill quoted over $4600.00 with tax.

    Anyone know of a quality shop in the MACON GA area to put in the pump?  Or a well recommended shop within 200 miles of Macon.

      

     

     

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    I know nothing about the 87 Vogue III Crown Bus, but i have operated Detroit engines for decades. The turbo 8,2 was Detroit's first attempt at a four cycle diesel engine. It was designed as a throw away engine and can not be rebuilt because of the block water jacket. As designed this engine puts out between 165HP to 200HP, @2800 RPM, torque from 350-430 foot pounds @ 1200 RPM. The HP and torque data may change slightly from one application to another. It can be overfueled to reach close to 400 Hp in marine applications. However is 3000 is above RED LINE & WOT in most applications. While you may reach that RPM periodically, sustained operation at that RPM will probably destroy the engine in quick order. The operating RPM for that engine is in the 1700 to 2500 range. It is usually governed to hit 2800 and that's it! Notice that maximum torque is attained at around 1200 RPM, so your performance and economy will deteriorate as the RPM increases. The 8.2 turbo in late 80's was a fair to good engine, the non-turbo was better. The 8.2 series tend to have head gasket problems when overheated due to small head bolts, this problem was reduced in the late versions of this engine.

    IN SUMMARY, KEEP YOUR RPM IN THE OPERATING RANGE OF 1700-2500 RPM, HAVE YOUR HEAD GASKET TORQUE CHECKED!

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    Duct tape may allow water into the opening especially after a week or two. If your roof is fiberglass as most class A 's are I would suggest stopping a a auto parts store and buy a fiberglass repair kit and mat. You can do it yourself and you will have a durable and waterproof repair until you get home. If your not the DIY type, most any body shop could do it for you on the cheap as not extensive prep is required.

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    The Cummins ISB and Allison 2500MH tranny combination is near maxed out in its stock condition. The 275-300 ISB puts out around 600 FT pounds torque and that is the max rating for the 2500MH tranny. I spent almost $550 USD for Allison to tell me that. While the engine could by fueled/ boost up too 375HP or more, can not boost the ISB without damaging the 2500. The 2500 is a older tranny that had limited capacity, that is why they went to the 3000, 4000 series ect. for the big dogs.

    REPEAT THE 2500MH and all the 2500 variants can not safely handle more than 600 Foot pounds torque.

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    Hi all, I have coach net.Used them for the first time last week. Lost a belt tensioner in my 400 hp Cummins on 84 west in NY.

    Called-- waited on hold for ever. They wanted to tow my m.h. I told them I could give them my engine serial # so they could send mechanic with right tensioner and belt. They really wanted to tow m.h. I insisted on a roadside service call. They said someone will call to come out to help. Nobody called so I unhooked tow vehicle drove 49 miles each way to a Freightliner dealer got parts and was back on road in 3 hours. I think there service is a waist of money.

    Know the feeling, I had the main 135 amp circuit breaker malfunction at a traffic light on a highway in Delaware, shut everything electric down, engine included. Cops at scene wanted the MH out of the way, so they would not wait for GS guy to come from 45 miles away. Had the MH towed 1/4 mile to rest area, paid the guy $285.00 out of my pocket, at the rest area, got out my coveralls and called Freightliner 24 hour custom service. Described the problem, they directed me right to the problem breaker.

    Per their instruction by-passed the breaker and continued on my journey. Went to Cummins and got new breaker, job done. CS paid the $285.00 with no argument.

    There is a certain level of security when you have your toad with you, the solution of even what may appear to be major problems are often within your reach.

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    Wow. We have heard bad things about every manufacturer during our RV travels. We love our Winnebagos. Had a 2011 Journey 40U. Trouble free. Traded for a 2015 Ellipse Ultra and it has been awesome these first 8 months and 6000+ miles. Sorry you have had problems but we would recommend Winnebago Journey/Meridian or Tour/Ellipse to anyone.

    There CAN be problems with the moderns behemoths which travel down the road at 60+ mph but we have had two Winnebagos and loved the first, love the current. Again, sorry for your issues but we have been at rallies for Prevosts, Newells, BlueBirds, Foretravel, Newmar, Tiffin, Thor and Winnebagos. They all would love to be perfect but alas, that is not the case. Some have problems like yours, some have bigger issues but most, and I believe most, are incredible marvels.

    We have been blessed with that so far.

    Best of luck in your journey.

    Know the feeling, our WINNEBAGO Journey has done a good job for us. I take the attitude that it is just like a airplane, so many hours up, or on the road, so many hours maintenance. When I first bought this unit i had problems with the slides, found out that a couple of hours a season checking wiring underneath and corrosion proofing grounds eliminated the problem. So it goes with everything on a MH. You just can't get in and ride of into the sunset and think you will go forever.

    I would be concerned about buying another unit now, because this one has so few problems, that I would hate to trade up to a "lemon".

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