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    55 minutes ago, TBUTLER said:

    Speaking strictly from an arithmetic perspective, looking at what we have spent on our current motor home, $270,000 and the current value, we've spent (or lost if you prefer) about $200,000.  Amortized over the 14 years we've owned the motor home that is about $14,000 per year.  The initial investment amount includes loan interest for the purchase of the motor home.  Would I do it again?  Absolutely.

    Now, what did we get for our $200,000?  Yes, there are experiences, read my blog for a few. We also got freedom.  Freedom that is hard to imagine until you experience it. 

    Let's imagine taking a trip from home to Alaska.  Most people will go for a week or two, perhaps a little longer then return home.  There are the expenses of going to and from, expenses while in Alaska including a place to stay, a rental car, food and fuel.  Meanwhile you have the utilities, upkeep at home, mortgage (if you have one), insurance, etc.  Somewhere in the back of your mind is the condition of your house.  Is the air conditioner still working?  There was a storm in the area are there any wind damages?  I hope that our friend Joe remembers to pick up the mail.  Will our son have time to cut the grass?  I wonder if I left the iron on...  Meanwhile, the time you leave home until you return you are on the travel treadmill.  You have plane reservations, hotel reservations, special tours or events, all scheduled.  So you methodically go from one experience to the next.  Along the way you learn about an interesting event nearby but, too bad, you have reservations in another location tomorrow.  Want to go back to Alaska another time?  You have to plan another trip.  Will you do it?  I'm betting against it.  There are so many other places to go.  So likely, that trip to Alaska becomes the only time you will be there in your life.

    Now imagine that your motor home is your home.  As you travel, your expenses are just part of your ordinary budget, food (we eat most meals in so it is groceries, not restaurant bills and we control our diet), fuel, campground fees (when not boondocking), maintenance, insurance, mortgage, etc.  Your expenses will rise slightly on the way to Alaska and while there simply because the cost of living is higher in Canada and Alaska.  So the expense of taking that trip is not significantly different from your normal living expense.  We spent three months on that trip in 2006.  We were able to see and enjoy things that most people traveling from home can not experience.  All the while, we had not a care about anything related to a permanent house. Along the way you learn of a nearby experience.  No problem, we'll extend our stay for a few more days (or relocate to an area close to that experience).  Our trip planning is done on a daily basis.  If we like a place, we'll stay longer.  If we've seen all we're interested in we'll head on down the road.  If a campground is full we'll find another.  We did this in Fairbanks.  The campground had a site for us for three days.  We did what we could, then went down the Kenai Peninsula toward Homer.  Before we left, we made reservations for two weeks in Anchorage and would return to stay there later.  Our travels are flexible in a way that is almost impossible when traveling from home.  From time to time, no matter where we are, we'll just take a day or two and stay at home.  We have no compulsion to be out running at full speed to see everything.  We aren't on vacation, we are living where we are.  The freedom of not having a schedule is hard to understand if you haven't experienced traveling that way.

    On the way to and from Alaska, we explored British Columbia in depth.  Also on our way to Alaska we spent several weeks visiting our daughter and her family in California.  This was just one summer out of the 9 1/2 years we were full time.  We continue to live in our motor home for six months of the year.  We now have a winter home, a mobile home in a park in Edinburg, Texas.  So we are in the motor home full time each year from about the end of April until the end of October.  I would have been happy to remain living in the motor home full time but marriage is a partnership and Louise said she needed to have a home again.  She had done 9 1/2 years on the road, how could I say no to that request.  At this point she still relishes the freedom of our summer travels and at the same time looks forward to returning to our winter retreat. 

    As to health care, we had employer based health care for the first 11 years and had to return our original home location for health care except for emergency type care.  Emergency care would be "out of network," and was covered with a higher deductible.  Once on Medicare, our insurance became nationwide.  Since we had children near our original employment, we combined family visits with medical care.  We are both in good health and an annual visit was all we needed generally.  I had both knees replaced in 2011 while we were parked in my daughter's driveway.  Recovering in the motor home was at least no worse than in a regular house.  The distance to the bedroom and bathroom was much shorter than in a real home and just outside my door was plenty of are to walk for exercise.  I even used the outdoor steps to their basement to build strength and flexibility on stairs.  Follow-up home care visits were also easily accomplished in the motor home.  The nurse/therapist simply came into the motor home for my check and treatments.

    Now, to your most recent inquiry.  We have been out of our motor home for maintenance only one time while full time and that was a single night when the coach was in the paint shop overnight.  We've had painting done and not been out of the motor home overnight but this one shop wasn't able to accommodate us.  We routinely have service done at Cummins, Freightliner and other shops and have never, repeat never, had to spend a night in a hotel.  Both Cummins and Freighliner have RV friendly locations but we've visited their regular truck facilities also and never been refused overnight accommodations in our own coach.  In many cases, they will pull it out of the shop in the evening so we can have the coach until the next morning.  If one case, we had a valve dropped in our first coach.  Cummins had us towed to a spot in front of one shop door, the coach stayed outside while they ordered parts and repaired the engine.  We never left the coach.  They allowed us to use their bathrooms during the day and we weren't there long enough to fill the black water tank.  The gray tank could be emptied into a nearby drain.  I used a bucket to take several gallons at a time and pour it down the drain.  We just had a water heater replaced at American RV in Evansville, IN.  They had electric hookups for us, we came in the night before, plugged in and were ready to go at 8:00 a.m.  They worked through the day, brought the coach back out for the night.  We plugged in and stayed until they finished, doing the last remaining work while the coach was on the lot. 

    There have been two major body work repairs on our coach.  In both cases we were able to return to our now winter home and we took the coach to the shop and left it.  So, those might have worked as above but we didn't have to try to stay in the coach.  We did have some body work done on the coach and were able to stay in it through the whole process.

    Tom...- thank you... your posts continue to be very adult like and well reasoned replies.

    I think it's great that you are living 6 months out of the year...and enjoying visits with your family... 

    We just got back from the Grand Canyon.. visiting our granddaughter...

    We're also on Medicare., Social Security... and I'm retired.. 

    We are going on a two month journey with no set scheduled stops across the United States... Have a few key locations but the rest are up in the air...Plan on taking 10 days to the Midwest , see friends, out east down to Florida and finally back to California....a 7,500 miles journey over two months...   AND, we can easily do that in our Class B because we have places and family to visit... 

    The journey is the destination...   And, maybe if the weather is too much.. hurricanes, tornadoes, or something, we'll just find a hotel for a few days... No problems.   I'd rather be safe staying somewhere than be at risk on the road....

    As far as medical stuff.... we're Kaiser Permanente members...we can get out of area coverage, and get reimbursed later if we need to.. 

    Your story about the rig getting fixed right away is very lucky....

    We have a couple of small issues to work out before our long trip this fall and I recently called a local RV shop that came highly recommended.... turns out the first appointment is about one month from now just to bring the rig in.... glad I don't live in it.....

    Keep moving as long as you can...time and age is like a cruel trick...it creeps up on people and many people overestimate how much time they actually have left.... that's WHY I retired early.....

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    50 minutes ago, BillAdams said:

    There are so many things in life that are more important than money that I don't think you will ever understand.  It is not, and never has been, about a financial benefit.  There is a huge physical and mental benefit but you are happy with your money and your financial appreciation so I don't think anyone could explain it to you.  When you die that's all you will have left and only your beneficiaries will get any pleasure from it.

    Bill, 

    Not once have I ever said that people, including you, should NOT be entitled to choose a Class A... heck, the Prevost is an extremely large and luxurious vehicle...we saw a brand new one recently at the Grand Canyon.... must have been a million dollars plus rig.... Really spectacular... 

    I'm just saying that I don't need to have something this exotic... Is it cool, YES...

    I wouldn't have any place to store this and I'm sure that lot of other people don't either. 

    Seems to me that by listening to what you are saying....if you don't go full time , you cannot appreciate traveling and experiencing this great country of ours, that's not TRUE..... 

    Please layoff making perjorative remarks about us part timers.... even insinuating remarks like 

    "When you die that's all you will have left and only your beneficiaries will get any pleasure from it."

    Don't you realize that a comment like this is really in poor taste?  Not necessary.

    Again, keep it up... your killing off new members like me, really obnoxious. 

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    45 minutes ago, BillAdams said:

    There are so many things in life that are more important than money that I don't think you will ever understand.  It is not, and never has been, about a financial benefit.  There is a huge physical and mental benefit but you are happy with your money and your financial appreciation so I don't think anyone could explain it to you.  When you die that's all you will have left and only your beneficiaries will get any pleasure from it.

    Again...I have appreciation for traveling and enjoy doing it... I'm just making decisions that suits my lifestyle... your free to make yours.   

    Who said anything about not enjoying my travels... you're making some sweeping generalizations here predicting what other people might do...   

     

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    One more thing... about full time.... while your rig is in the shop for repairs.. you essentially are locked out of your home and have to stay in a hotel... A little more than inconvenient....

    I don't collect vehicles... I collect houses....and the investment properties help me finance what I want to do.... You can't refinance an RV... based on appreciation... they don't appreciate... 

    I'm not saying that it's not worth doing...this is a business decision... You just have to be very careful with how you handle money and investments... Long term planning is key... I definitely want to travel first... And when this becomes too difficult have my own home to come back to... 

    A large Class A that you live in is like a mobile home on wheels... You still have to pay for fuel, maintenance, long term storage, repairs, insurance, any other costs.. traveling and admission to recreational areas... 

    All of this we can do and enjoy in our lighter foot print Class B.... 

    Again, I'm not saying anything negative or that the Class A's aren't nice.. they're wonderful... I just don't want to spend the extra money for fuel, maintenance and everything else that goes with a more complicated machine like the Class A's...

    That's all...Choices ......

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    1 hour ago, spuds said:

    It appears you mis-credited your quote.  Those (with the strongly noted exception of your added "larger Class A" comment) are my words, not Brocki's.

    We own a B+/C (depending on your definition of such) and do not share your impression of FMCA as a Class A Motorhome Club.  I certainly haven't found the general community to be unwelcoming to any class of motorhome.

    OK, sorry Michelle... So, you have a Class B plus... really a Class C.. 

    Didn't mean to misquote your words... 

    As far as I know ... there's almost "no activity" on the FMCA for Class B owners... I'm talking van motor homes like mine..  

    By the way, the Leisure Travel Unity is an absolutely wonderful vehicle... Do you have the Murphy Bed... I loved the videos and features of these...  Really great product.. has the same drive train as mine, 3 litre Mercedes Benz Sprinter V6... 

    We also looked at the Navion... Leisure Travel Unity is kinda hard to find in Southern California...and I didn't want to purchase a brand new one... 

    I'm sure you are going to love it... 

    I did consider the Navion.. but, I absolutely loved the way the Roadtrek drove....it's less complicated, less concerns about roof seals and better road dynamics... At least it's my opinion behind the wheel.... 

    Good luck.... 

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    1 hour ago, rossboyer said:

    I do not have a "B", but I have helped several of our chapter members move from an "A" to a "B". Their primary reason for the move was to get a smaller more manageable coach as the still like the lifestyle, but cannot handle the cost of an "A" and are not traveling enough to warrant the cost. 

    I do read the posts on the "B" Forum, but many times I do not have the experience to answer the post. 

    Hi Ross, 

    Glad to hear that you have helped people "right size" to the rig they wanted...

    I started thinking...how many places I wouldn't be able to go based upon size of rigs, restrictions at National Parks, fuel costs, ease of parking, maintenance and repair etc and I kept coming back to the Class B.... 

    Plus,  it's hard not to find a well built Class B....and out Roadtrek RS Adventurous is close to the top of the line Roadtrek model.   There's a lot of cheaply made Class A's in the price range I paid it the 5 years old Roadtrek..

    Question.... aside from my posts... how many and how long ago did you see any posts see from other Class B owners recently?? 

    Actually, we love to take long road trips... planning one across the United States this fall.. about 7,500 miles ... I'd rather do that at 18 MPG rather than 5 MPG.. 

    We could even stop at a hotel a couple of times and still save money.. considering the fuel economy difference... AND, we go everywhere with the Class B..no tow car necessary..

    I hope you enjoy your rig as much as we do.... we're not letting it sit around in the driveway ...the more we use it and go out, the lower the costs per trips overall... 

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    1 hour ago, FIVE said:

    Yes, I realize this is a Class B forum...what does that have to do with anything?  I believe you've made posts on the Class A forum.  

    You need to lighten up, don't be so sensitive and defensive...you have a Class B you love, fine, we are on RV number six, and have had several smaller rigs, I don't want a class B...guess that makes us both happy.  You're happy and proud of your MPG, great, I'm happy for you, but I can go farther on a tank of fuel than you can.:)  I do monitor and keep a log of my fuel usage, but the bottom line is I don't really care what it is, it's the cost of doing what we like to do.

    Well, thanks for clarifying that.... I certainly appreciate your liking the Class A ... they're beautiful...we looked at all of them when we went shopping...I can see advantages to every class...

    It's just that we wanted to have a greater deal of mobility at a lower fuel consumption, smaller rig also means less expensive tires, brakes, suspension parts, the list goes on..... 

    Yes, cruising range... I get that... Some of the Class A's have 100 gallons of fuel... I only have 25 gallons of fuel...  I can get around  400 miles per tank comfortably before worrying about running too low... But, to be really safe 350 to 375 depending on how much hill climbing etc.  

    When someone says...I shouldn't be doing this..and in the wrong hobby... yes, that's a little offensive.. I don't tell Class A owners they shouldn't be driving their rigs, although I have said that they pay a lot more for fuel, which is true... Just the facts. It's all business.... No personal agendas here, your choice.  In Europe, people rarely drive Class A motor homes because the roads are narrower and the price of fuel is so much higher there.

    We can and do get out to all the places a Class A can go... maybe places that are too large for a Class A.. 

    Is it a little more camped, sure it is... Does it work?  YES, everyone's different , we do spend time outside and inside... Time to fold things up.... I suppose you are right... but, how much time does it take to put two chairs, a mat and maybe a small table in the back. And put the awning up.... Not a lot of time.... especially compared to my teardrop trailer which is very labor intensive and takes an hour or more... Listen, the teardrop is very cute and we took it out on more than a dozen trips, but, there's a lot more work...see picture... 

    We still have the teardrop... But, the Class B is so much easier ...

    And, yes, I have posted on the Class A forum.... too bad I'm apparently the only active Class B owner out there reading and responding to questions on the FMCA.

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    4 hours ago, Elkhartjim said:

    I contacted my insurance provider this week to make a change to my policy. They asked the usual questions but this time they had a different question,"are you a member of any rving groups like Good Sam's?". I said yes and then asked about FMCA; they are not on our list but with you being a member of Good Sam we can provide a better rate. Another benefit from Good Sam's I was not aware of.  BTW, the insurance provider is The Hartford.

    Jim, be very careful with The Hartford...we had them as our insurance company on our cars... had one very minor incident... they were great fixing everything....then, later trippled our rates.... repairs were only about $1,200 ....we would have been better paying for the repairs ourselves....we dumped them... business decision.

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    Brocki wrote below...

    "We joined FMCA over 17 years ago specifically because it was motorhome-focused.    (still very much is on the larger Class A's)

    Wewere (are) also members of Good Sam.  If FMCA changes to allow towables, I see no advantage to remaining in the club as the content would be diluted/become more generic "RV", and Good Sam gets us better and more varied discounts for lower cost"

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    This is no question the most hot button issue in the FMCA..... but, aside from any particular outcome.....the FMCA might as well just be called the Class A Motor Home Club of America... 

    I won't probably renew my membership next year...Class B owners are non existent on this forum at least active participants...  Old threads are dormant and no one responds to new questions.

     Very sad. 

    And the Class A folks just love to tell me that if I'm concerned about fuel efficiency, I'm in the "wrong hobby"????? What's with that?? 

    AND, the moderator defends it ?   What's really going on here...? 

    If the towables are green lighted, which I highly doubt...it will be ALL about the money.... 

    Either they will take over the discussion on the forum with their issues or be frozen out and alienated by the predominantly discussed Class As.  

    I wonder how many people are dropping their membership each year ?? 

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    It's not that we don't love traveling...and we definitely do plenty ..it's just that the depreciation factor on a vehicle as expensive as this is daunting... Again, my house is an appreciating asset.. I can rely on that as a financial backup.. the vehicles not so much... 

    So, we'll continue to be part time...we get plenty of memories out of our travels.. unfortunately, not one of these answers came close to justifying the "financial benefit" of going full time... BUT, some of your stories were very good... I'm sure that you didn't regret doing what you did... Just makes me pause.. here's why..

    Over the course of time... our home has gone up in value over 500 percent...

    I don't think there's anything that anyone can say to justify how an RV can do this...new or used.. And, the expenses of the RV for fuel, repairs, maintenance, parking, rent or whatever you take it have to considered vs. the mortgage and taxes..     

    In my particular case, this just doesn't work for me... 

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    Brett, you wrote...

    "You ask where they are.  The FMCA Road Trek Chapter has 2500 members, so clearly there are a number of Class B owners active in FMCA:"

    interesting... 

    2,500 members, that's a lot of people.... Aside from my posts, and someone from January who had a fire breakout in his Roadtrek 210 resulting in a total loss... I have not seen or heard from anyone... they're just not contributing to any of these recent discussions.... even when I asked Class B's specifically for their input..

    This post tried to get input from Class B owners.  I sure got a lot of remarks from Class A folks... 

    I have to scroll back several years to find any active threads... nothing real recent.. 

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    12 hours ago, wayne77590 said:

    Mark,

    My expenses started just about when the warranty ran out but prior to that it was in the shop several times covered by warranty.

    Ask me why I'm not particular to Winnebago's anymore. (Yes, all mfg's have their problems.)

    Wayne, as a follow-up...are you saying that all of these items were covered under the Winnebago warranty...and as soon as the warranty ended... ??? 

    Did you have an extended warranty or was that just the regular manufacturers warranty?

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    12 hours ago, wayne77590 said:

    Mark,

    My expenses started just about when the warranty ran out but prior to that it was in the shop several times covered by warranty.

    Ask me why I'm not particular to Winnebago's anymore. (Yes, all mfg's have their problems.)

    Wayne,. It's true I suppose that all manufacturers have problems and each person is different about how their cars and RVs are maintained.  

    I decided to drop my extended warranty yesterday... and when I called the folks at Good Sam.. they spent at least 10 minutes on the phone trying to talk me out of dropping it... I'm not saying that no one ever gets a benefit from this, but,  after reading a number of things online and thinking about how much it would cost over a long period of time... I decided I'd rather just set aside a fund and cover this myself..my plan was a $500 deductible..so, I would be out $1,500 per year based on just one repair... This adds up quickly... And, the exclusions... 

    Sorry about Winnie.... They're big... So, what are you looking at now for an alternative?   

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    1 hour ago, lmsooter said:

    Saving money did not enter into the decision to go full time for us.  We were in good health and enjoyed our coach.  I had been tied to a demanding job for my entire career and had retired several years prior.  We simple said "Do we want to stay here and mow this 3 acres and maintain a large home for the rest of our lives or do we want to go see the country?"  That was in 2011.

    In 2012 we spent 3 months in Canada and Alaska.  And visited many states traveling there and returning to Texas.  We spent almost a year in 2015-2016 east of the Mississippi River visiting every state there.  In between the long trips, we visited friends and family in Arizona, Colorado, Texas and New Mexico.  Now we spend the summer months (or June through September) in New Mexico and Colorado enjoying sightseeing, trains, fishing and photography.  The rest of the year we spend near family in Texas.

    As far as health care is concerned, we have a Humana Medicare Advantage plan which has served us well across the nation.

    We have never regretted our decision.

    Great answer.... thanks for sharing...

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    5 hours ago, gulya said:

    FIVE. You said it all. We don't worry that much about fuel mileage, we worry about which thing to do on conflicting dates, or can we really make it between pt A and pt B in the driving time we have available. Our kids loved Yellowstone in our RV. 

    What you're saying is.... you're a Class B...how can you appreciate RVing....how can you justify that? 

    We love Yellowstone just as much as the rest of you....we can enjoy this just as much in our Class B... 

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    2 hours ago, kingfr said:

    We full timed for 10 years. When you factor in the depreciation on two DP coaches, we spent a lot more than it would have cost to stay in a sticks and bricks. We did not try to be frugal, we traveled in all of the lower 48, rarely staying in one place more than a week or two except when visiting family or taking care of some severe medical issues. It was worth every penny, we would still be full timing if health issues hadn't stopped us. I had bypass surgery and DW had a hip replacement while we lived in the coach. Medicare and Texas Blue Cross took care of everything. I wish that they could make severe arthritis go away!

    I see.. it's all about the life style... Yes, depreciation on any of these is a huge factor.. which is why I think I'll use my RV for traveling..  at least I can always refinance my house to pay for repairs or acquire a new RV ...

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    43 minutes ago, manholt said:

    Looked up the new owners of Roadtreck today...Hymer Group...Did not know that Roadtreck is a Canadian Company, did know that Hymer is German and has been in the RV business since 1956.  The Hymer would be a perfect Toad, Fiat chassis and gas or MB diesel.  I would chose the gas version! (Dodge engine), serviced anywhere! :D 

    Yes, Roadtrek is part of the Hymer group.. I didn't know that Hymer was started in 1956.. good to know.... Roadtrek was started in 1974 and they're one of the leading makers of Class Bs since 1990...  I was aware that they merged.... Good call. 

    As far as engines go, I'd rather have the diesel... reason being, it's quieter.. gets better fuel economy and it doesn't work as hard going up hills.. just me. 

    Never been a big Dodge fan.. they've got a terrible reputation with their cars...

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    45 minutes ago, Elkhartjim said:

    I'm sure there must be other van conversion owners that are members or FMCA but apparently they don't participate in the forum. Mark, fuel mileage must have been the driving force for your van purchase. Comfort was the reason for my class A purchase, to each his own. Hopefully another van conversion owner will join your conversation.

    Jim, that would be very nice....so far, I'm getting a lot of people making comments about their Class A's.... I definitely know they are bigger than my rig...  I'm just saying that I can go anywhere you guys go in the Class A group and be totally comfortable..  

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    13 hours ago, FIVE said:

    Anybody who is primarily concerned with fuel usage is in the wrong hobby.  I have to chuckle when a read a post about traveling and a poster says he's not going because fuel went up a quarter/gallon.  So when he's on his death bed is he going to say, "man I'm glad I didn't make that Yellow Stone Park trip, look at the money I saved" or is he going to say, "I'm sure glad I spent a few bucks and got to see YS park, sure was pretty."  IMHO, the biggest disadvantage of a Class B is that when ever you go some place from the CG you have to pack up your RV and go in it.  Then when you get home, you have to set up again.  We spend every Jan in one CG on the Gulf Coast....it would be a real PITA in a Class B.

    I hope you realize that I posted this question under the Class B forum? 

    For your information, we are planning on traveling through the entire USA and Alaska with our Class B..  we don't have any problem leaving a complete set of clothes that we leave in our rig 24/7... 

    And, we go everywhere a Class A or C goes, maybe more places a really big rig can't even get into! 

    And, because we're getting the higher MPG, it's LESS of an issue to make a long distance trip or go virtually anywhere. It's much more liberating, no excuses not to go. 

    Boondocking is easier, we blend into parking lots and look more stealth than either a Class A or C... 

    We have a small teardrop trailer....now, that's a little more challenging to travel during inclement weather and packing that up is a PITA.. the conversion van is very easy... 

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    Never said anything about sleeping 6 people... only that we could carry 7 passengers.. like on a day trip.. 

    It only sleeps 2 people...king size bed in the back...

    There's an option..I wouldn't do this, but, you can get the front seats to fold down into two single beds... SO, if you had small kids,  I suppose you could do that and they would sleep up front... pretty small quarters though...

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    2 hours ago, BillAdams said:

    100,000 miles takes the average RVer at least 10 years to accomplish.  That's only $6000/year vs. the cost of the RV in the $200,000 to $500,000 range.  Since you are not a class A buyer you can't really compare any Class A or Class C (especially Super C) numbers to anything you could relate to in your van conversion.

    I must say that you are likely the most prolific new member we have seen on this site in a very long time.  225 posts since July 3rd.

     

    Bill - yes, I'm merely pointing out that the group of Class Bs... made a conscious choice to have a lighter foot print and get the better fuel economy... that's all..

    The advantage of this is the higher mobility at a fraction of the fuel consumption..this have to be compared to something... It is what it is. 

    My cost of going 10,000 miles is only $1,665 per year. That is almost what you might find in an SUV.. 

    There's plenty of Class A'S selling brand new that are "gasoline engines" under $100,000.  

    The Roadtrek RS Adventurous sells for $150,000 brand new... I was very lucky to find a clean used one for half this price.  

    Even with the price of the coach and the fuel, and some repairs, I don't think I'll hit the $150,000 mark driving 100,000 miles... that's my point. 

    Yes, as far as the number of posts.... you get as much as you put into the club...

    ---Mark

     

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