Herman, when did I go broke? I lost a lot on a printed magazine 35 years ago, but did not go "broke," and paid off my bills. And in the process I learned a lot of lessons. I will "do anything to attract attention?" Come on, how do you draw that conclusion? Like any business person I seek attention to grow our circulation. And it works. We dwarf FMCA in readership. RVtravel.com is financially solid. We have four employees, not 35, and we publish about 400 newsletters a year, all in the black. Printed magazines are 20th century; just look at the industry statistics -- Chuck Woodbury