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  1. I also wonder what in... is happening.... I used the link... it goes to my account ... I'm paid through 4 /22 ... I went to " renew" at the stated price of $50 / year ( 33% off) .... BUT.... at the final step, it pops up a price of 1 year at $75, 2 years at $150, 3 years at $225...... t best, This is a horrible way to process a renewal.... at worst, it's ^&%&*&^... thinking no one should proceed further in this online process.... Shame that FMCA finds it necessary to go this route.
  2. Suspect it's like the normal 80-20 experience in many organizations. 20% contribute operationally to the organization goals and purpose, 80% members but preferring to pay dues based on their perceived economic benefits received and more or less stay in the shadows...... Have no idea how many of the 80% non-chapter members serve on committees, volunteer at rallies, or seek other ways to help organizations they are not satisfied with - would offer that as one way to gain support for their views.
  3. Suspect most "whatever" chapters are not state restricted..... believe most chapter folks would prefer to be in chapter with members in their area which would overlap state borders to socialize with while at .. and outside of events rather than being assigned to one because of their mailing address.... Fortunately, chapter can have members from several states ..... the "whatever" chapter I belong to has members from 10 different states.... some are snow birds that belong to chapter or chapters in each of their primary time areas .. and some are full-timers that move around but enjoy having social groups to associate with in different parts of the country. Understand that some chapters restrict membership to only their state or area. So be it... that's their thing.
  4. I likely can't help Richard find folks he might like to associate with to explore possibilities of common interests or friendships. However... if his SE WI means in the area between Milwaukee, Madison,Janesville,Kenosha, there are 27 member families living in that area in our chapter alone.... and I'm sure several from other chapters as well. If others have similar dissatisfaction with FMCA but not wanting to meet or talk with other members in their area to explore possibilities of friendship or common interests, I fully support what Manholt recommends. Just don't understand why anyone would want "a voice" in an organization but not want to meet or socialize with other members - either chapter members or non members - both locally available and from all across this great country. Doubt $15 annual dues is factor. Maybe FMCA would allow one to organize a "Non Chapter" Chapter and then function fully as an equal to all? Stay safe and healthy.
  5. I believe there are at least 5 active FMCA Chapters with members operating in the SE WI area plus several others more regional or with specific interests. You may have explored all - and possibly discussed your interests and what you would like to see done locally with officers of those chapters? If not, maybe start with Regional VP? Granted that with the current pandemic situation, difficult for organizations to hold more sanctioned events. As a couple not full timing but relatively active in FMCA National, FMCA Regional, 2 FMCA Chapters summer month events, rolling rallies to and from events with friends (not only from our chapters) plus winter snowbird luncheons, and short trips with others, we stay about as active as possible to fit in. Also participate with 3 non - FMCA motor home organizations. Last point I would offer is that National FMCA members do not need to be a Chapter member to attend a Chapter rally of function... Providing space is available, our chapter as well as several others allow and actually invite non members to attend a function (one per calendar year), meet the members, participate in all events, contribute on round table discussions, and decide on membership later. Suspect many chapters (as we do) normally have round table discussion during the function on several topics including RV maintenance, recent mistakes shared, etc. Will step off my Chapter box with best wishes you find what you are after... PM me if we can be of help. Stay safe and healthy.
  6. Was stated ...."I guess my biggest point here is that having smaller and more local events throughout the year would give members and potential members lots more opportunities to get value from FMCA." Kind of like what Chapters do.....we have monthly rallies during the sumers, friendship luncheon's for members during snowbird season for members in FL, AZ, AL....and "rolling rallies" for sightseeing to and/from the Internationals rallies.
  7. I do not believe I ever got the details on that alleged incident ... spoke to SkyMed Rep that would love to check it out further but couldn't give him any thing to check out.
  8. It's a great serine RV resort overlooking it's equestrian grounds..... same owners .. separate business... very enjoyable to watch the training, exercising of the horses, and yes, some of the really top level buggy events, ect. Nice on site bistro, museum.
  9. We did not have any issues or known positives of attendees.... Had 29 coaches double spaced in park, large room so all tables were 10" apart and seated 2..... naturally a few that were close friends and apparently frequently together pulled their tables together when eating or chatting but for most part, everyone wore masks when in group and stayed appropriately distant from others... Wife and I have continued to avoid groups, indoor seating ( once in June, once in July with distant tables and masks). Have done outdoor events and fire pit evening with masks and distancing both at rally and while home.
  10. Interesting to watch / read about the dissension going on in our dysfunctional lost organization. Obvious that leaders don't trust or have faith in others. My perception .. The vote to change FMCA from a Family Motor Coach Association was achieved by a few for personal reasons by dispensing incomplete and incomplete information prior to the orchestrated vote without understanding the real purpose and FMCA's reason of 50+ years of success and being. - and then shortly after the vote, by discovery of information contrary to earlier info. It seems to many that the process used gave cause for distrust going forward. Now it seems that in spite of a vote last year by the Governing body, a budget was created by a few that is not in line with the intentions .... and apparently, there is some reason for not believing the numbers used in creating it are again incomplete and clearly biased ? I am one who has SKYMed and feel it is clearly superior to FMCA Assist in all possible ways so I don't need it ...but that's my case ... I feel the majority of the actual motor coach folks want it and it's been a significant feature of FMCA membership for many years for them- maybe not so much of interest for the new towable members ... but this is an example of significant change as a result of changing FMCA from the premier motor coach organization to a general RV club. Those that wanted the change got it.... Without destroying what else FMCA meant / means to existing members, what was the plan going forward? ( I would like to have Dons2346 send me a PM with the details of the case he states where SkyMed didn't preform... I will contact them for their details of understanding as it's very contrary to their claims and I would like to know if I've been incorrectly informed). I believe right now, whether you agree with requiring that program or not, and what it would cause the dues to be, I believe the Governing Board direction last year was clear and continuing end-run attempts with apparently incomplete information looks like continuing to perpetuate trust problem...Maybe some will correct my belief but it obviously appears there are several other areas of expenses that should be reviewed by the Governing Board - and they should have with total access to all data of expenses in complete detail. The examples I heard of where contracts are given / extended, raises given, increases to 401K matches given, are real indicators that some things are out of control - or confidence and participatory agreement should be sought.
  11. Few thoughts that I hear from many long time members and agree with about current situation that FMCA leaders have created and put the organization into. The adage "Be careful what you wish for, you may get it" certainly applies with changing FMCA from the worlds premium motor coach association with the motor coach member focused issues and interests to a general RVing club. Also "the first step in correction of illness is not to deny and accept reality" - maybe applies to the current disfunctionial situation? Three years ago during that organized campaign to change FMCA, the info and process used to sway members was personal - The fact that 50+ years of FMCA success due to it's purpose, mission, and reason for existence were minimized. A lot of knowledge and long time experience in membership was ignored. Options were not considered and vote was premature. Facts provided on membership and financial status during the campaign were later corrected - after the vote. I suspect this will be fact checked and I apologize if any are incorrect. It's my recollection that shortly after the vote, it was discovered that FMCA had unknown membership growth in 26 of the 28 months just prior to that vote. I believe I recently heard that FMCA membership has now declined in every month except 2 since that vote. I understand now after 3 years of focusing on towables, Ross mentioned there are now 7000 towable members..good, but apparently more than offset by folks leaving? Rallies seem to be 35+% first timers... good news / bad news... overall attendance trend down so that also means 50% of attendees don't attend again. Is this 60-65% the primary focus of rally attendance or is it first-timers? Cost of acquistion is higher that retaining existing members. I keep hearing that many feel the membership decline is primarily because of the raise in dues... I believe this is incorrect...I believe the problem started well before the reactionary dues increase action - the root cause of the problem was the change in FMCA's reason for existence. I believe actual motor coach folks would understood the dues increase for the program - but they are no longer the focus of the organization - and your new target membership market doesn't have nearly the need for the program. It wasn't the dues increase, it wasn't the new challenge of CoVid, gas prices, $700,000 discovery of found money one year and then a surprise huge program cost increase two years later. It was changing FMCA forever without truely understanding what that meant to members and the organization's path forward. . Those in denial of this fact likely won't find solutions for long term resolutions. (I am in Sky Med also and have no need for FMCA assist so would prefer the program be made an add-on_ - but many folks need that program.... Some folks may not understand or like the comparison but there is a very good reason why snowmobile clubs don't recruit motor cyclists for their club membership. They work together on common issues but they focus on their own purpose for existence. Many, many are members of both clubs...with different purposes and cause for existence. So Be It.. We are where we are. The organization has changed... accepting that and understanding how the organization has been changed to all elements.is step one. I understand only 20% of members belong to a chapter. ( That would be around 15,000 members ?) My suggestion has been for years that more FMCA chapter support should be shown - not just discussed. In our case, our chapter members recruit many times the members into joining FMCA than is experienced top down- including several new towable members. Is FMCA designating at least 20% of it's total advertising efforts in chapter development ? As an example, maybe 20% of the actual PREMIUM rally time needs to be dedicated to member chapter support? It also seems to me that FMCA benefits form active chapter members likely retained longer than just discount program seekers. .
  12. Badger Chapter Nominating Committee requested all officers remain in position until next year. (One additional year) All officers agreed to do so. Executive Board decided to hold off the election of candidates for these positions until next year.
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