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  1. Amby, Thanks for the follow up. I think it really helps all of us to learn what you did and how it worked for you. I hadn't thought about using Armourall on the awnings. I'll have to give that a test!
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    Dock power

    My question would be how prudent is it to plug a 30 amp coach into a 50 amp circuit? My point being that the protection on the circuit is a 50 amp breaker, not a 30 amp breaker. As a matter of electrical code, all the electrical wiring on any circuit should be sufficient to carry the load of the circuit breaker for that circuit. You would never use anything less than a #12 wire on a 20A circuit. You would never use anything less than a #10 wire on a 30A circuit. You would never use less than a #6 wire on a 50A circuit. If there is some kind of leakage in current, the breaker won't trip until 50 amps is reached as opposed to a 30 amp limit on a 30 amp circuit. The power cord on the 30 amp coach is rated for 30 amps but the breaker won't cut off the current until the amperage reaches 50 amps. This sounds like a dangerous situation that at the least could cause damage to the power supply cord of the coach. If there is a 30 amp main in the coach, then the only wiring at risk would be the shore cord and any wiring between that and the 30 amp main. Still, I would want a portable 30 amp breaker to plug in at the park outlet.
  3. PABEAV56 Your KVH LF/LS may be a dish model similar to the original one on our coach. We had to have a low speed data port on the receiver and none of the modern receivers would work with it. We had to use an old Hughes Executive Director with that dish. If that is the case for you, I have the old receiver, it still worked when I took it out last summer. You should call KVH and talk to them. I checked the web site for KVH and they list the phone number, address and a link to on-line support on that page. Have all your information about the dish and receiver and contact them by whatever means you want. I think you'll find some good help there. Contact me if you need the old Hughes Executive Director.
  4. So the connection between the satellite receiver and the TV is good. That simplifies things considerably. Now the focus has to be the DirecTV box and the set-up process. After you do the shut-down, unplug and restart procedure, try to see if you can get it set up satisfactorily. If not, I would call DirecTV customer service and ask them for assistance in getting the DirecTV receiver set up properly. In the meantime, if we are to continue to help, we need to know what KVH dish you are working with and what DirecTV receiver you have. Are you getting an indication of the satellite identification? If you have standard service you should likely be on satellite 101.
  5. How are you able to assess the good signal strength from the dish? Are you reading that signal strength on the TV or with another instrument? If reading the signal with another instrument, are you sure you are reading signal from the proper satellite? There could also be set-up issues with the DTV satellite box. If you can't get the DTV menu on your TV then you have to solve that problem first. If you are reading the signal from the DTV box on the television screen, you should be able to get picture. It might be that your DTV box isn't properly "authorized" by DirecTV. The first thing to try would be to turn off the box and unplug it for a minute or so to reset the memory. Then plug in the DTV box and turn it on. If you still don't have picture, call customer service and they can direct you through a reset process. If you aren't getting your signal strength reading on your TV screen, your problem could just be a matter of getting the signal from the DTV box to the TV set. Assuming that all the cables are properly connected, there are several things that could be the problem. Most RV's have a video distribution switch box between the Satellite (DTV) box and the TV set. If you have a video distribution switch box and you get broadcast TV then you should be able to select the satellite switch (button) and get satellite signal. You must make sure that the selection on that box is set for satellite for the TV you are using. The other selection is on the TV menu, usually titled input. You need to set the input to pick up the signal from the video distribution switch box. Once that is set, you choose your inputs through the video distribution switch box. If you are getting broadcast signals from the video distribution switch box to the TV then the TV input should be set properly. There is only one cable from the video distribution switch box to the TV so all signals will come through that one cable. Having said all of the above, I recently installed a flat screen TV in our rig and have wired around the video distribution switch box for the incoming satellite signal. If you have a used coach, you may have to begin to dig your way to the rear of each of the components so you can trace wiring. Let us know what from above you have tried and what results you got and then we can offer more suggestions if it doesn't solve the problem.
  6. Seajay, Good to see you back on board! The only help I can add is that there is a phone number on the electronic water heater service manual on the Atwood web site. The service manual is for different model numbers than yours but does cover both 6 and 10 gallon water heaters. I would guess that if you called Atwood at the phone number on this manual, you could get some answers about your water heater. The manual displays two pages side by side so you have to scroll over to the right to get to the front page with the phone numbers.
  7. In China this is the year of the Tiger. Here in South Texas it is the year of the puddle. We are in temporary digs at our winter resort. We sold the improvements on our home lot for the last several years and moved to a different lot until we can get a mobile home on what will become our home address in coming years. So, we are right across the street from the office and community room near the entrance of the park. It is the "oldest" part of the park and the roads are beginning to show it. Now in a normal year, you wouldn't notice, but the winter of 2009-2010 hasn't been normal. If you haven't heard, this winter has been an El Niño year. A surface current in the Equatorial Pacific Ocean has disrupted normal weather patterns and everyone notices this in one way or another. Southern California gets heavy rainfall. There is flooding Las Vegas. Record snowfalls are recorded across the United States and snow is falling in unusual places. El Niño, for those who aren't familiar with it, is an unusually warm surface temperature that occurs every few years. This year, the outbreak has been characterized by a very strong (5 degrees above normal), long-lasting outbreak that covers a very large area. You can learn more about El Niño at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration web site. Click on the words El Niño in blue and you'll see a depiction of the recent activity. The good news is that the temperature difference is currently about 4 degrees above normal for most of the warmest area. That is a tiny bit closer to normal! Funny how all that warm water way out there in the Pacific Ocean could dump so much snow and rain on the U.S. It just illustrates the complexity of the climate and weather of this wonderful planet Earth. So all that has translated into this puddle in front of our motorhome. It fluctuates, one day small, the next day large. Once in a while it disappears only to pop up again the next day. The puddle comes from rain that doesn't drain away. Instead it drains into the road and there it sits in low spots. When we leave the coach we have to plot a course around the puddle or in some cases between puddles. This contrasts with last year when we had hardly any rain at all. We were constantly under fire hazard warnings and open burning was prohibited for weeks at a time. We've had plenty of rain here in South Texas this winter. Despite all the rain and the puddle, we know we have it good. A phrase often heard around the park is, "At least we don't have to shovel it!" As long as El Niño continues we can all expect unusual and extreme weather. It could be a real exciting spring!
  8. Welcome Jim, You'll get a more complete answer from others I'm sure. In general, what you are describing is exactly what should happen with the exhaust brake. With our coach the hard downshift doesn't occur immediately, there is usually a period of time before the transmission downshifts. When you take the brake off the transmission will upshift in response to engine RPM. You can downshift without using the exhaust brake, just use the down arrow on the transmission. If the engine RPM is in a range that allows the transmission will downshift. You can not damage the transmission by using the downshift arrows as the transmission will not allow the engine RPM to go higher than is safe for the engine. Downshifting from 6th gear to 5th gear will slow acceleration going down hill without the engine brake. In ordinary hills, I seldom use the engine brake. As long as your speed remains in a safe and legal range, let the coach accelerate and then let the next up hill stretch slow the coach to your desired speed. To use the brakes excessively is a waste of energy. Try downshifting to control the speed and then use the engine brake if necessary to hold speed where you want. If you do use the engine brake, release it before you reach the very bottom of the hill to make the best of the acceleration the hill can give you. With a little practice you can use this technique to improve your fuel mileage.
  9. We've found many of those places in our years of travel. My favorite was at the toe of the Matenuska Glacier in Alaska. There is a campground there but nothing sufficient for a motor home of our size so we requested and received permission to boondock on the overflow parking lot which overlooked the end of the glacier. We were a short 200 yards from the ice. We stayed at a number of other roadside stops in British Columbia, Northwest Territories and Alaska at which we were the only occupants. Occasionally we would share a roadside stop with another RV or two. We saw the northern lights one night at a roadside stop where no other lights could be seen anywhere on the horizon! We parked next to a river and enjoyed the sights of watching float planes land and take off. That night we discovered we had taken in several dozen mosquitoes and they feasted mightily on us during our sleep. We killed many but found many others in the covers the next morning! We were the only RV parked at a roadside stop in New York, Highway 132 overlooking the St. Lawrence Seaway. We BBQ'd and watched the sun set over Canada. A ship we had seen in the Eisenhower Lock earlier in the day passed by us as we ate dinner. We spent the night there without any other company. These are just a few of the interesting places we have stopped. We've spent many a night in humble RV parks and in very nice RV parks. We enjoy meeting people and learning from them. We also enjoy those special moments when we are all alone in a natural area.
  10. tbutler

    Look for us on the road!

    Various views of our motor home and taod
  11. From the album: Look for us on the road!

    The sun sets over Canada and the St. Lawrence Seaway. We spent the night at this roadside rest area in New York. There is an accompanying picture in this album showing our rig and the view of the seaway.

    © @ Tom Butler

  12. From the album: Look for us on the road!

    We spent the night here overlooking the Matanuska Glacier east of Parker, Alaska. We hiked onto the toe of the glacier in the evening and again in the morning before we left. During the night we could hear the moaning of the moving ice. The campground there didn't have any sites suitable for a big rigs so we asked permission to park here in what is their overflow parking lot. We were the only motor home parked here for the night. We paid a camping fee to boondock but it was worth it for the experience.

    © @ Tom Butler

  13. Welcome to the Forum. So I assume, Jack and Jane, you are retired! I can also assume that you are somewhere in the southern US to post this message at this time! How long have you been on the road? Where have you been? So fill us in on your travels what are the activities that you enjoy most. You might want to start a BLOG where you can give us your story in installments!
  14. Trader Buzz, I'm going to refer you to my posting from almost a year ago. I briefly thought about projection TV but it really wouldn't work for us. I replaced the old 24 inch analog TV with a 32 inch flat screen. Wow! What an improvement. Then I traded in the old analog DTV box for a digital and that completed the conversion. I did the same with the rear TV, routed a second feed from the new KVH dish we purchased (not HD capable) to the bedroom TV which was a 26" LCD replacing a 20" analog TV. Now we can watch two different channels. We're very happy with the results.
  15. Our set up is different so our experience will have some differences. We have four 6V batteries and an 7.5 KW diesel generator. We boondock frequently, most times on road trips, parking at Wal-Mart, rest stops and other parking areas with no services. Two years ago we were in Jasper National Park and could only get a non-electric site. We've been in cold weather with no hookups on a fairly frequent basis. Here is how I would approach a typical day. Rising in the morning, the coach will be cool to cold because you will set the furnace at a temperature like 55, 60 or 65 degrees for overnight. The lower you can stand to set it, the less the furnace will run and the better your battery life. Bring plenty of blankets and be prepared to live with the cooler indoor temperatures. For five nights you could even sleep in some good sleeping bags. You run from the bedroom to start the generator, turn the furnace up to a comfortable temperature, turn on the coffee pot which you have preloaded the night before and then jump back into bed to let the furnace do its work. Depending on your neighbors, you may do this at 6:00 a.m. if they are all motor homes and have generators that are running. If you have tenters in the neighborhood, 8:00 a.m. would be more considerate. If the sun is shining, open the curtains to let the sun shine in and assist the furnace. Once you are up and about, turn on the TV if you desire to pick up the latest news and a weather forecast. Get breakfast while the generator is running. We switch our refrigerator to electric when the generator is running as the electric cools our refrigerator better than propane. It takes about an hour and a half to do all this and in that time the batteries are in real good shape. Shut off the furnace or turn it down again, switch the refrigerator to gas, lights off and exit the house leaving curtains drawn if the weather is cold and cloudy. If the day will be sunny and you'll be back well before sunset, leave the curtains open to get as much solar heat as possible. Enjoy your day. When you return note the temperature of the coach and when you see it starting to drop, close the curtains if they are open. Start the generator, switch the refrigerator to electric if that is better for your fridge, cook, run the furnace, catch up on news and weather on the TV, read, etc. About a half your before turning off the generator, set the furnace temperature up several degrees to warm the house well. Then turn the temperature back to a comfortable evening temperature if you are going to stay up and read, etc. At bed time set the furnace back as cool as you can tolerate and go to bed. You want to be sure you have a good charge on the batteries before a cold evening as the night is going to be the real test of your batteries. I run our generator for several hours in the evening to be sure I have a good charge on the batteries. We also have good indicators of battery charge with our instrumentation so I always check that before shutting down the generator. A few nights at this and you'll be a pro. You'll know how well your batteries handle the furnace for a given outdoor temperature and thermostat setting. You might luck out and have nice weather with sunshine and moderate night temperatures. Five days is a short stay at Yellowstone. You may want to stay even longer! Enjoy!
  16. If the Fleetwood is rated to tow a 3000 pound vehicle then that means that some component of the system is only capable of supporting that weight. This rating is most likely rated on a repeated stress basis, not just a single event. The component could be the hitch but it could be another component, frame, engine, drive train, brakes. Brakes would not necessarily help with the stress on a specific component. You should have the Honda weighed to determine its exact weight. If you are going to load the trunk, the back seat, or use a car top carrier, or put bicycles on the back, you should have them on when you weigh. Weigh with a full fuel tank. If you fully load it and it comes in under 3000 pounds you are OK. If not, your insurance company (they will have the specs on the Fleetwood) would likely use the overage in weight to deny any claim in the event of an accident. In court, that 50 pounds you mention could cost you the value of the Honda. If an accident causes additional damage to other property, you could be liable for that as well. Basically if you exceed that rating, you are on your own. How rich are you?
  17. Jim, You say you want no replies to your post but you pose a question and I will try to answer that question. First, nobody gets flamed on this web site. Well, almost nobody. Like you, I am a veteran and like you I feel very strongly about those in need in our own country. I have spent a career in education, doing my best to help children learn to be better citizens, better learners and better workers to support their future families. During that time I have contributed to many organizations that support those in need in this country. I don't see the issue as an either/or situation. I see hundreds of thousands of dead in Haiti, about 100 dead for every person who died in the attacks on September 11, 2001. I see those dead in a country that is one of the poorest countries in the world and I know that there is no way they can support themselves or recover from such a tragedy. Without help, hundreds of thousands of others will certainly die. To fail to help them is to invite further tragedy and human misery on a scale that even the poorest people in this country can not imagine. Just as you feel an obligation to help those around you who are in difficulty because of lost jobs and homes, the richest nation on earth is obligated to help those throughout the rest of the world who are poor and destitute. "From everyone to whom much has been given, much will be required; and from the one to whom much has been entrusted, even more will be demanded." (Luke 12:48) Despite our current difficulties in this country, all of us here in the United States of America are still among those to whom much has been given. My service in Viet Nam and visits to other third world countries and travels in Europe have clearly shown me how much we have been given. I think it is important to help those in need wherever they live. We are in many cases the only country capable of giving the aid necessary. What is important is that each of us helps those in need of help in accordance with our conscience and ability.
  18. To add a little to the excellent advice that Gary(kd) has given you... Be very careful where you post information about your travels. You don't want anyone connecting your home address with your travel posts. We are full time and don't have a house to worry about so can talk more freely but if your address can be connected to information that you are in Wyoming headed for Minnesota, it is like telling people your house is unattended for the foreseeable future. With mail forwarding services, you can generally have your mail forwarded to: Your Names, General Delivery, Anytown, AnyState, Zip. We use the USPS web site to find the post office we where want to pick up the mail, you can search by town and get the nearest four or five post offices. Pick a small town if at all possible - it is much easier to find the post office. The USPS web site has maps that will help you find a particular post office. Not every post office in large communities handle general delivery mail. In towns with multiple post offices, there will be one main post office that handles general delivery mail. That is where you want to pick up your mail in larger communities. We usually plan to have the mail there several days before we arrive. General delivery mail will be held for several weeks. You will need an ID (drivers license) to pick up your mail. We have a mailing service that will forward our mail every Monday and we pay for Priority Mail which costs between 5 and 10 dollars each week depending on how much mail we have. If you are in a remote part of the country, the 2 to 3 day Priority Mail claim of the Post Office is meaningless. The mail will get there when it gets there. All of Texas is remote... add a day or two to the delivery time there (we are there now). Alaska is a whole different world for mail delivery! Holidays add a day or two to the delivery times and the Christmas season will add as much as a week to the normal delivery times. By the way, the USPS has its own definition of priority, it turns out to be somewhere between first and third class mail. Given all the above, we've only had to delay departure from a location several times waiting for mail to arrive. If you use a commercial service like FMCA, Escapees, Mail Boxes, Etc. and you ask the mail to be sent every Monday it should go out like clockwork. If you use a friend or relative, you'll have to live with their lapses in memory and adjust your schedule for it. Also if your friend or relative doesn't pick up your mail every day the mail could be sitting in the mailbox overnight occasionally. I would file a permanent change of address with the US Post Office since the seasonal forwarding they do is good for six months or less. When you return, you can file another permanent change of address to have mail returned to your home address. I find the on-line change of address form to be unfriendly to people who are on the road. Some of the information they ask for won't work for us so we get the paper form from the post office and file it. You can ask to be certain but I think that first class mail is forwarded for one year. You'll likely have to change your address directly with magazines to have them forwarded to your mail forwarding service. Put your name on the no-mail list for catalogs (the junk mail kind) and put your phone number on the no-call list for phone calls before you leave. I would suggest possibly putting antifreeze in the drains and toilets when you leave home. This should slow evaporation and keep pests out without the corrosive effect of chlorine bleach. If you add a little oil (corn oil, etc.) to this mixture it will form a barrier on top of the water/antifreeze which will retard evaporation. You should be able to keep water in the drains and stools for the duration of your travels. If you are worried about staining stools, you may want to just use the oil. You can pick up messages from your answering machine with a cell or other phone. If your answering machine or phone service doesn't have this capability get an answering machine or add that service with your phone company. Try it out before you leave home. Don't leave a message that says you are out of town or indicate anything about your travels as that is another tip off to strangers that you are gone. We use a cell phone for all our phone calls and all our relatives have that phone number so we can always be contacted. You can give your trusted business connections (attorney, bank, broker, etc.) your cell phone number and instruct them to use that to contact you until you have them change back to the home number. We use e-mail for the bulk of our communications with children. That way they can read about our exploits and then we can discuss more important matters when we are on the phone. Stop paper delivery and if you get a free paper that is delivered to everyone, have a neighbor pick up those for you preferably on the day they are delivered. Nothing says empty house louder than a pile of newspapers on the driveway or lawn. By the way, your neighbors will know you are gone before you leave so you won't be giving up any secrets there. You don't have to let them know how long you plan to be gone. We have all our bills paid by automatic charge to our credit card (a few by direct charge to our checking account) and then reconcile our credit card account with the statement we access on the internet and pay that via the internet. That way there are no utility or credit card bills in the mail. If the mail is delivered late, you won't miss any bills or payments. I keep a record of the closing date for the credit card and the billing date for each of the utilities, insurance payments, etc on my computer calendar. I can go to the credit card web site and check to see what the payment amount is for each item as my way of seeing that charges are as expected.
  19. Increasing dues is seldom done without careful consideration of the consequences. Every dues increase will cause some members to drop out. Will enough members stay to more than offset the lost members? Will we lose more members by cutting this service or that service? The board meeting at Bowling Green, Ohio, last summer lasted for more than 12 hours, I believe. Our officers and board are wrestling with some difficult decisions. I believe that there has been a reduction in the paid staff at headquarters. I don't have specific numbers on the top of my head, but I'm sure someone can supply those numbers. We've had comments on the increase in the mail forwarding fees charged to members. Reductions are being made where possible. For myself, I'll renew for the maximum multiple year renewal allowed and thus lock in the current dues for the next five years. It might seem that the organization is losing my dues for the coming years, but in reality they are getting a big payment now. That money can be invested to earn some of the difference between the old dues and the new dues. Every member is making difficult decisions these days. What to keep, what to let go. We'll hope that most of the members will keep FMCA, but for some, the $5 will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. That is an accepted part of the decision to increase dues.
  20. Welcome to the forum Rolling Realtor, I checked with my GPS program. There is no interstate route that is anywhere near direct so you'll be taking some US highways to get the shortest route. I haven't driven all these roads but my experience with the US highways in the region indicate that they should be very passable. You will find them to be more interesting to drive than the interstate, you'll have to watch for signs particularly in towns as they weave and wander through small towns. Just take it easy (don't rush) with the motor home and you'll do fine. Get out your map and see how this route works for you... From Waco you can take I- 35N to Oklahoma City. You can pick up US 270N just west of OK City, at Seilling OK you would then take US 183N to I-70W OR If you prefer you could stick with I-35N to Wichita, KS where you would continue N on I-135 to Salina, KS where you could take I-70W. This route is a little longer but would be interstate all the way. The distance is greater but the time may be about the same! Your next challenge will be to get to I-80 in Nebraska. Again, no interstate route even close. Go west on I-70 to Wakeeney, KS and then turn north on US 283 which will take you to I-80 at Lexington, NE Take I-80W to US 385N at Sidney, NE and stay on US 385 to SD Hwy 79N to Hermosa, SD At Hermosa, take US 40 W to Keystone and then SD Hwy 16a south to Mt. Rushmore Simple as that! OR You could take I-35 N to Kansas City, MO, then I-29 N to Sioux Falls, SD and I-80 W to Rapid City where you would take SD Hwy 79S to Hermosa and US 40W to Keystone and then SD Hwy 16a south to Mt. Rushmore. The distance on this route is a little longer than the routes described above. My GPS programs shows it to be about 156 miles longer, 1216 vs 1372. I can't imagine it taking more time plus the driving should be about a simple as it can be. Plenty of big cities, either take the by-pass route or navigate the city traffic at non rush hour times! When I'm driving routes like this (you indicated you want to spend more time at Rushmore than on the way) I like to travel 300 to 400 miles in a days driving. It looks to me like this could be easily driven in three days. We never stop at campgrounds when driving for distance. Kansas has great rest stops along the interstate with dump stations. We stay at highway rest stops if we can't find a Wal-Mart that is convenient. If not Wal-Mart, we'll look for large parking lots by empty store buildings and park on those if it isn't posted. Truck stops are way too noisy for us but if we are desperate we'll use them as well. If we go into a campground, it cuts into the travel day and that takes us longer to get to our destination. Rushmore itself is a day visit. While in the area, be sure to see Custer State Park for the bison. The Black Hills have many opportunities for hiking and fishing. Near the town of Custer is the Crazy Horse Monument being carved (blasted) out of stone. There is a great museum there also. We have hiked up onto the Crazy Horse statue with Volksmarch on two separate occasions. They sponsor a walk onto the outstretched arm of Crazy Horse each spring. Don't miss that if your schedule allows. You'll be a short drive from Badlands National Park and that is something not to be missed though it can be intolerably hot in the summer. Wind Cave National Park just south of Custer State Park is also a great cave adventure and Jewel Cave National Monument to west of Custer is also interesting. There is a great excavation site at Hot Springs, SD that has mammoth bones exposed in their position where found and a nice museum to go with it. There are many interesting things to see and do in Rapid City and Sturgis is just north of Rapid City but don't go there during the Motorcycle Rally unless you really like crowds of motorcycle riders and their fans! We stayed at the Custer/Crazy Horse RV Park just east of Custer on SD 16 Alt. That was in 2004! We found the park to be quite adequate and it was within a days touring of all the things listed above.
  21. The FMCA Parking Committee usually asks that you limit the use of your toad during the coach parking days. If you do need to go somewhere they will have specific exits and entrances for you to use to avoid conflicting with the coaches arriving and parking. Once the convention is underway and everyone is parked then you can come and go freely. The local community may be planning special events for attendees. In Bowling Green last summer we saw the latest Harry Potter movie one afternoon, had pop corn and soda and still paid less than we would have for a single ticket where we are now! They also had a sidewalk sale during the convention. Be sure to look for activities in town!
  22. Do you have pictures of your work? You could post them in a forum entry or in the photo section. Be sure to include some description of what we are seeing. Before and after pictures would really be nice. I don't need this done with our coach ... yet! I'm sure we have members who would be interested.
  23. We don't have a lot of information about you. Your personal profile is empty. I wonder what your interests are. Do you want to see the natural areas like the Black Canyon of the Gunnison or Mesa Verde? Are you more interested in seeing the ski areas and riding gondolas and shopping? Would you be interested in the Mint in Denver or the fossils in Florissant Fossil Beds National Monument? Some people are interested in the Casinos around Central City and it is a hoot to attend the opera in the old opera house in Central City. We enjoyed a trip across old Hwy 40 in the northern part of the state. We never saw any speed traps but then I watch my speed like a hawk, after all, I'm always an "out-of-town'r." Seriously, if you give us some idea of your interests we might have better, more relevant suggestions. We haven't stayed in the campgrounds in the area but near Alamosa in the SE corner of the state is a mecca for RV's in the summer. Near Alamosa you will find the headwaters of the Rio Grande River with fishing and rafting. There are lots of parks along US 160 west of Alamosa. It looks like many of them are people who are summering in the area so there will be long term residents. The altitude makes the climate moderate. There is plenty to be seen in the southern half of Colorado and you will be within a day or two drive of most of it. You may want to settle in that area for a while and then explore out from there.
  24. These are pictures from three trips we took in January 2010. The first trip on Wednesday, January 27 was to the Cowley Sugar House and Mill in Santa Rosa, Texas. We learned about the growing, harvesting and processing of sugar. The second trip was on Thursday the 28th to the Gladys Porter Zoo in Brownsville, Texas. We took a behind the scenes tour of the zoo. The final trip was to the Port Isabel Yacht Club Hotel and Restaurant in Port Isabel, Texas. We had dinner and some of us stayed overnight.
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