nat58 Report post Posted February 12, 2017 Have to turn key on and off about 20 times before engine cranks on my 2000 Discovery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildebill308 Report post Posted February 12, 2017 Are you waiting for the "wait to start" light to go out? Have you tried holding down the "battery connect switch"? Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nat58 Report post Posted February 12, 2017 Yes to both Bill I hear a clicking sound from the back but not at the starter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bm02tj Report post Posted February 12, 2017 Check with mfg for location of the starter relay or follow the click or the small wire on the starter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted February 12, 2017 nat58. Welcome back ! When was the last time it cranked over? Is it cold weather where your at? Since your an electrician, I suspect you have checked your batteries for proper water level and voltage!? This is sort of like last time, Nat. Would like a tad more info ? Carl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hermanmullins Report post Posted February 12, 2017 nat58, As Carl just said, a tad bit more information. Gas or Diesel? Engine Make, Cummins, Detroit, Navistar, Ford, Chevy.??? First make sure your batteries are fully charged. Check for corroded post and lugs. You stated that all you could hear was a clicking noise. Sounds to me like a Bad Starter Solenoid. Herman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfe10 Report post Posted February 12, 2017 Look at your Allison shift pad (assuming this is a diesel coach with Allison 3000 transmission). Does it illuminate as it should when you turn the key? Turn on the dash HVAC fan which I assume only runs with the key on. Does it function each time you turn the key or only when the engine tries to start. If these things are not happening as they should, the IGNITION SOLENOID or switch itself may be the culprit. If these things work, then, yes look further back in the coach. If you determine that either the ignition solenoid or ignition switch may be bad, let us know and we can walk you though troubleshooting and also emergency "work arounds". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
five Report post Posted February 12, 2017 A couple of points, I have a Detroit Diesel...it does not have a wait to start light and, before turning the key, you must wait until all the lights on the dash quit flashing and all the beeping stops. The key does nothing until the prestart flashing and beeping stop. Good information, Brett, thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildebill308 Report post Posted February 12, 2017 1 hour ago, FIVE said: A couple of points, I have a Detroit Diesel...it does not have a wait to start light and, before turning the key, you must wait until all the lights on the dash quit flashing and all the beeping stops. The key does nothing until the prestart flashing and beeping stop. Good information, Brett, thanks. I would have to wait a long time because the low air buzzer won't shut up till air preshure comes up. Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nat58 Report post Posted February 12, 2017 Remove starter and bench tested it failed half the time replaced the starter all fine. Thanks for all the help guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildebill308 Report post Posted February 13, 2017 Glad to know you found the problem. Goes to show, sometimes it isn't any of the common items, battery voltage, solenoid, or connections, sometimes it realey is a bad starter. Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted February 13, 2017 nat58. Thanks for the feed back. Like Bill said.. Carl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites