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I was reading the last issue of FMCA. The article about the new Winnebago tour said that it held 150 gal of fuel and 15 gal of DEF. So Where do you come up with 15 gal of DEF whenh on the road? Maybe ILL go back to the idea of buying a new gas burner. that sounds like a real pain in the ***

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When did that start, I mean how far back to you have to go and have a DP that doesn't use DEF?

What is the ratio of DEF to a gallon of diesel, and how $ is it?

One would think that it could be mixed into the fuel.

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The price of DEF is listed on the Flying J website along with the price of their fuel. I believe it was $2.69 at the last Flying J.

It's not a fuel mixture so not a part of that setup and I have no idea how long a 15 gallon tank of this stuff will last.

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I take it that all the *** a parts (Cummins) require the DEF fluid? Why cant they make it an additive. Anyone know just what engines do or don't require it?

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Correct. Navistar/MaxxForce choose to use high EGR and modified engine perimeters to control emissions to meet the much stiffer 2010 EPA standards.

Others like Cummins choose to run the engines more efficiently (improved HP and economy) and use a "catalytic converter" to clean up the exhaust-- just like we have had on gasoline engines since 1975.

The DEF has to be injected AFTER the engine, as it works in the converter. Burning it in the engine would not work.

Let's keep this in prospective: If you have a 15 gal DEF tank and get 8 miles per gallon, that will last you 15 gal times 50 gal diesel/gal DEF times 8 miles per gallon= 6,000 miles of driving on a tank of DEF. Then pull into a Flying J, etc and fill the tank. Your power and MPG will be improved over an engine that does not use DEF. It IS a trade-off-- more complexity and DEF vs not quite as good power/MPG.

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Sounds like a commercial for Cummins. While certainly not a scientific study, my conversations with owners of Monaco Knights with Cummins get about the same mileage as my MaxxForce. The torque rating for the MaxxForce is equal to or greater than the same horsepower Cummins and Cats that I've read about. Certainly the design of the engines are different, but I'm not convinced that this fact means that there is a significant loss of efficency as a result.

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If you want to compare fuel economy, you'll have to compare similar weight coaches, of the same year and power rating, similar driving styles and similar terrain and weather.

My coach has a 10 gallon DEF tank. I keep a 2.5 gallon container on board with me all the time. Somewhere between 1000 and 1200 miles the guage will indicate I'm down by 1/4 tank of DEF, I'll then dump that container into the DEF tank. This in not the major inconvenience the detractors have attempted to make it out to be. The next time I pull into a fuel stop that sells DEF at the island I can refill that container or, alternatively, I can purchase a new container full from Walmart for about $11 (it is less expensive to buy it at the fuel island).

At $2.69 per gallon, assuming 8 miles per gallon of fuel, DEF adds less than one penny cost per mile.

As an aside...

There is NO diesel smell coming out the tailpipe what so ever (I assume the Maxforce is the same). That makes us much more acceptable to the non-RVing public following us in traffic. :)

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If you want to compare fuel economy, you'll have to compare similar weight coaches, of the same year and power rating, similar driving styles and similar terrain and weather.

My coach has a 10 gallon DEF tank. I keep a 2.5 gallon container on board with me all the time. Somewhere between 1000 and 1200 miles the guage will indicate I'm down by 1/4 tank of DEF, I'll then dump that container into the DEF tank. This in not the major inconvenience the detractors have attempted to make it out to be. The next time I pull into a fuel stop that sells DEF at the island I can refill that container or, alternatively, I can purchase a new container full from Walmart for about $11 (it is less expensive to buy it at the fuel island).

At $2.69 per gallon, assuming 8 miles per gallon of fuel, DEF adds less than one penny cost per mile.

As an aside...

There is NO diesel smell coming out the tailpipe what so ever (I assume the Maxforce is the same). That makes us much more acceptable to the non-RVing public following us in traffic. :)

Well said! Also it is not harmful to the engine if by chance you should run out of DEF. You can still drive it and fill it up at next fuel stop etc. Least ways that is what I was told .

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I'd also like to keep this in ANOTHER perspective. I tried to attach a pdf file to read and for reference but my one page was to big so I cut and paste it below. Sorry for the formatting! If anyone would like a copy of the document just email me and I will forward to you.

DEF is used in another converter where it treats the exhaust before exiting the tail pipe. It is dosed PRESENTLY at 1% you can do your own calculations. The EPA is requiring even more stringent standards in 2013 (I believe) where the dosage will go to 2% per gallon of fuel.

Yes it has been used for years in Europe.

Yes it is just hunky dory for an automobile, truck or even an RV if you drive a lot of miles per year. But that is where the discussion begins.

Most people drive 5 to 8000 miles per year in their coach. If you fill the DEF tank it will take you 2 years 2 consume the DEF. But there is the problem FOR US. DEF will spoil if stored over 85 some degrees......I wonder if that could be a problem for those of us that spend multiple months in hot weather? Because if it spoils it triggers the computer to run the engine in a default mode max 50 mph and if you don't get the bad fluid out it will cripple the engine at 5 mph until you do. Of course the RV manufacturers did not take this into consideration so when you buy the new DEF RV be sure to see how difficult it is to remove the DEF tank as there is not a drain. The ones I looked at were a bear so keep that in mind. It also freezes so they have that figured out also by including ANOTHER heater in the DEF tank.

Store bought DEF at $14.00 for 2.5 gallons and has a 2 year lifespan if not opened. SOOOOOO after you calculate the amount of miles you are going to drive can you can figure the amount of DEF that is required so you effectively run out at the end of your trip. You could store it in the freezer or refrigerator if the DW does not mind. That will extend the life of it and will make sure it is not spoiled when you go to use it.

Flying J bulk storage may be cheaper but understand it is open to the air and can sit in hot temperatures degrading the material. See the reading material below.

Better mileage they claim, WELL I read a post from someone with a 2010 coach like mine (mine is an 2008 but same engine) that was getting exceptional mileage at almost 9 mpg. Of course people drive differently and maybe I would get better mileage if I drove his but I get routinely over 10 mpg sooooooooooooo I am not going to buy the "well it gets better fuel economy routine." I am tired of all the smoke that is generated on subjects to blow up our butts when the EPA wants us to swallow another pill. I am not saying that this whole idea is not good BUT I AM SAYING that as usual the engineers DID NOT think this all through. At least they could have provided a drain on the bottom of the stupid DEF tank but I GUESS that is asking too much.

Personally I am glad to hear some of the manufacturers are offering the Navastar engines if you request them. I was told that Tiffin (I did not confirm the info) would install a Maxforce engine on their house built frame assembly. And some others are doing the same but haven't seen the literature.

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DEF Diesel Exhaust Fluid

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EPA Environmental Protection Agency

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EGR Exhaust Gas Recirculation

PPM parts per million

ULSD Ultra-Low Sulfur Diesel

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Standardization

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COA Certificate of Assurance

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SCR

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Chapter 3-Production

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needed to maintain quality.

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• Purity – product impurities can detrimentally affect the after-treatment

systems’ performance and void vehicle warranty guarantees

due to premature catalyst deactivation and/or fouling of prefilters

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The ISO-22241 specification is very strict and rules out the use

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the presence of formaldehyde found in most urea renders it unfit for

DEF production.

ISO-22241 also governs the integrity of DEF through the supply

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and through the dispensing equipment, storage and handling, including

any small packaging for DEF. Supply-chain partners must undergo a

rigorous process to handle the fluid properly.

The American Petroleum Institute (API) will certify DEF and

will provide labels for DEF containers indicating the product is certified.

Those labels are being drafted by the SCR Stakeholders Group.

Certification is likely to include some quality assurance training for

supply chain partners including retailers. Samples can be pulled

anywhere in the supply chain to ensure DEF with the API label meets

the stringent quality requirements.

Contrary to some beliefs, DEF is not an additive, and is not

mixed with diesel fuel. In a vehicle outfitted with an SCR system, DEF

has a separate on-board tank (6-10 gallons on light-duty vehicles;

10-30 gallons on heavy-duty vehicles).

From its storage tank, DEF is pumped through a filter and

injector and then, into the exhaust stream. Injectors are very sensitive,

making purity extremely important, as any un-dissolved material may

clog filters or injectors. Additionally, dissolved material can result in

premature SCR catalyst failure.

Filters in the SCR system must function for at least a minimum

amount of time in order to meet EPA’s Tier 2 specifications. Premature

failure will activate the on-board vehicle diagnostics systems,

dramatically reducing vehicle performance.

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Sensors in DEF tanks will notify the driver if volume is low or

if the product concentration is not of good quality. Another sensor will

indicate if the NOx level in the tailpipe exhaust is too high. These

sensors will need to be maintained by fleet owners.

In the aftertreatment system, the heat from the exhaust hydrolyzes

the urea into two components: anhydrous ammonia and CO2.

This gas mixture of ammonia and NOx passes across the catalyst and

reduces them to elemental nitrogen and water, harmless since air is

composed of 78% elemental nitrogen. The additional CO2 emitted due

to urea decomposition is offset by enhanced fuel economy. A gallon of

diesel emits 10 times more CO2 than a gallon of DEF.

Chapter 4-Quality (cont.)

Chapter 5-Storage Challenges

A key specification in the ISO-22241 standard is the DEF

product’s urea concentration.

To ensure product stability, DEF producers, buyers, retailers

and users should store the fluid at temperatures between 12°F-86°F

(10°C-30°C). Doing so ensures a DEF shelf-life of at least one (1)

year. Storage temperatures higher than 86°F will detrimentally affect

urea concentration and below 12 ° F, DEF will begin to crystallize.

Both of these circumstances could render the product out of specification

and unfit for sale.

It is generally accepted that DEF will have a 1-year shelf-life

if stored between 86°F (30°C) and 12° F (-11 ° C). If it is stored at

temperatures above 86°F (30°C), the shelf-life will be reduced.

Chapter 6-Distribution

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DEF will at least initially come into the fleet marketplace

through truckstops along interstate routes and through truck terminals.

Although DEF production is centered East of the Rockies,

there are plans to transload DEF by rail to the West Coast as needed.

Eventually, product could be transported in higher concentrations and

then diluted in regions that are farther away from production facilities

if quality can be maintained.

Urea-based reductants are already being sold and distributed

across North America, for NOx reductions in stationary SCR applications.

A key to distribution across the country will be the movement of

urea products to terminal locations in most metropolitan cities. Like in

Europe, existing, large chemical distribution facilities will act as these

terminal locations.

Facilities already exist which are ISO certified, have

massive liquid storage capacity, blending, rail, and their own fleet of

tanker trucks. Urea products for other markets are already being distributed

through these facilities.

Fuel oil distributors will likely vend DEF in bulk tanker and

mini-bulk quantities. The 275-gallon tote can be put into a “cupboard”

at a fuel island and hooked to a dispensing pump for retail at service

locations. Major pump equipment manufacturers have developed

pump-island DEF dispensers.

The primary distribution point will be chemical distribution

companies which will provide DEF in bulk tanker and mini-bulk quantities.

This is the model in Europe where chemical distributors have

compatible assets such as stainless tankers. Fuel oil distributors will

supplement the distribution chain in select markets and geographical

areas.

Chapter 7-Dispensing

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Different pack sizes and configurations are being designed and

range from small bottles, to totes and drums to bulk dispensers. Typical

configurations include 275-gallon totes, 55-gallon drums, 2.5 gallon

bottles, 2.0-gallon bottles and 1-gallon bottles. High-density polyethylene

can be used in bottle packages but larger containers should be

stainless steel or other ISO 22241-approved materials in order to avoid

contamination.

Engine makers plan to dose DEF at a rate of 2%, or 2-gallons

of DEF for every 100-gallons of diesel fuel. A heavy-duty truck with

an average fuel economy of 6 MPG could travel 600 miles on that

same 100-gallons of diesel fuel. That same trip would therefore only

take around 2-gallons of DEF. That would give the truck a reasonable

number of miles to get to a larger DEF dispensing facility to refill.

Fuel oil distributors will likely vend DEF in bulk tanker and

mini-bulk quantities. The 275-gallon tote and mini-bulk tanks (up to

a few thousand gallons) can be put into a “cupboard” at a fuel island

and hooked to a dispensing pump for retail at service locations. Major

pump equipment manufacturers have developed pump-island DEF

dispensers.

These can be hooked up to either above-ground or belowground

DEF tanks. However, the product does need to be heated if it

is stored above-ground because it will crystallize at 12°F (-11°C) or

about the same temperature as diesel.

Chapter 7-Dispensing (cont.)

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For smaller locations and service bays, smaller dispensing

equipment may be appropriate. There will be stand-alone units of

1,000 to 2,000 gal for retail installation. That will be tied to the companies

POS (Point of Sale) technology, making the transaction part of the

overall sales experience.

This dispensing equipment may be in line with existing fuel

island or stand-alone units. This equipment will provide fueling from

diesel type dispensers, and special nozzles are being considered to

prevent the possibility of introducing DEF into the diesel tank.

Chapter 8-Retailing

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Potential markets for DEF include heavy and medium-duty

vehicles as well as light-duty vehicles. For heavy-duty and mediumduty

vehicles, DEF demand will be filled like fuel is: through bulk

dispensers. A typical vehicle in this class should consume more than

500 gal/year and about 90-95% of DEF sales will come from this class

of vehicle. On-board DEF tanks typically have a volume of 20-30 gallons.

Light-duty vehicles will have demand filled like a lubricant: in

gallon packs. A typical vehicle would consume about nine gal/year and

the market-share of this class is likely to range from 5-10%. Service

intervals may be synchronized with oil change cycles. Vehicle owners

can add their own DEF much like they would top off their windshield

wiper fluid.

Corporate Average Fuel Economy standard increases may drive

more light-duty vehicle manufacturers to pursue a more aggressive

SCR rollout in order to take advantage of the greater fuel economy

offered by these clean exhaust systems.

Off-highway vehicles will need to meet EPA Tier 2 tailpipe

emission standards by 2014. Additional demand from retrofitted diesel

vehicles is expected to emerge as well.

Annual DEF volumes could reach more than 725 million gallons

by 2015 at current fleet turnover rates, according to the Engine

Manufacturers Association. It conducted a survey based on input from

all major engine makers based on engine sales forecasts, vehicle miles

traveled and dosing rates (2-4% of diesel fuel volumes).

North American

SCR Stakeholders Group

Participating Organizations

August 2008

AGCO Parts Division

Agriliance

Agrium

AirBlueFluids, Inc.

Alliance

Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers

AluMag Automotive LLC

American Automobile Association

American Petroleum Institute

American Trucking Associations (ATA)

Ashland/Valvoline

Association of International Automobile

Manufacturers

Automotive Aftermarket Industry

Association

Automotive Association of America (AAA)

Balcrank Products Inc.

Benecor

Blue1

BMW of North America, Inc.

BP America

Brenntag North America

Caterpillar

Cervantes-Delgado Inc.

CF Industries Inc.

Chevron

Chrysler LLC

CHS Inc

Clean Emission Fluids

Colonial Chemical

ConocoPhillips

Cummins Inc.

Daimler AG

Daimler Trucks North America

Dale Kardos & Associates, LLC

Detroit Diesel Corporation

Diesel Technology Forum

Dresser Wayne

Dureal

Dyno Nobel

Engine Manufacturers Association

Excelda

ExxonMobil

EZ Fuel

(Cont. on next page)

Chapter 8-Retailing (cont.)

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Essentially, 80% of diesel vehicle production in 2010 will

feature SCR technology, requiring DEF.

DEF prices are likely to be above $3/gal at least initially until

operational efficiencies in the supply chain and increased volume of

DEF product moved begin to have an effect on price. Smaller containers

may cost more if they are sold as convenience items.

Eventually, access should become as easy as fuel or motor oil is today.

Engine makers have projected fuel economy increases of about

3% but depending on DEF price and dosing rates, that economic

benefit might be mitigated in real-world application.

However, the environmental benefits of SCR systems using

DEF are accepted as a state-of-the-art technology response to EPA’s

clean air regulations and ensure demand for quality DEF is here to

stay.

Flying J Travel Plazas

Ford Motor Company

Freightliner Trucks

Garden State Analytix

General Motors Corporation

Gilbarco Veeder-Root, Inc.

Greenchem-Adblue

Hino Motors Ltd.

Hino Motors Sales, U.S.A, Inc.

Honda

Honda North America Inc

Industrial Solution Services, Inc.

Integer Research

North American SCR Stakeholders 3

International Truck & Engine Co.

Isuzu Manufacturing Services

of America, Inc.

Isuzu Motors Limited

John Deere

Kelley Drye Collier Shannon

(representing PMAA)

Koch Industries

Koch Nitrogen - Industrial Marketing

Kruse KG

Love’s Travel Stops and Country Stores

Mack Trucks, Inc.

Magna Steyr

Manufacturers of Emission Controls

Association

Mazda North American Operations

Mercedes-Benz USA (Cars)

Mitsubishi Motors R&D of America

Mitsui Mining & Smelting

National Association of Convenience

Stores

National Association of Truck Stop

Owners

National Renewable Energy Laboratory

- US DOE Office of Energy

Efficiency & Renewable Energy

New England Fuel Institute

Nissan

Oscar W. Larson Company

PACCAR

Petroleum Marketers of America

Association (PMAA)

Petro Stopping Centers

Pilot Travel Centers

Porsche Cars of North America, Inc.

Potash Corporation of Saskatchewan Inc.

Quixote Group

Rehau

Renault

Robert Bosch LLC

R. W. Mercer Company

Ryder System, Inc.

Shell

Shell Europe

Shell Lubricants - Fast Lubes

SKF

Society of Independent Gas

Marketers of America (SIGMA)

Subaru of America, Inc.

Terra Industries Inc.

The Andersons, Inc.

The Fertilizer Institute

Toyota Motor North America, Inc.

Toyota Technical Center USA, Inc.

Travel Centers of America

Truck Manufacturers Association (TMA)

U.S. Department of Energy (DOE)

U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)

Valvoline

Venture Point Research

Volkswagen of America, Inc.

Volvo Mack

Volvo Powertrain

Volvo Trucks North America

Yara International ASA

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A couple of items to note:

Every Pilot or Flying J will have DEF, but not every one has it at the pump. A box of DEF will run about $15 for 2.5 gallons, but pump delivery is (currently) under $3/gallon. The myPilot app (or the website www.pilotflyingj.com) will tell you which Pilot/Flying J has DEF at the pump and what the price is.

The DEF pumps are arranged for the 18-wheelers, with the tanks on the driver's side near the front. I have to go through the pump bays backwards in my Itasca, and I have to move it after fueling, because the DEF tank is in the rear on the passenger's side. (I like the idea of a two-gallon gas can for the DEF, but there's no place to store it. I feel a mod coming on!) I suppose that I could get DEF from the adjacent pump if they weren't too busy.

I was told (but I have not verified) that a running diesel engine will continue to run when the DEF tank goes empty, and the the engine will start two more times. This allows you to get to the filling station, and if that station has no DEF you can get to the next station. After that the engine is interlocked not to start. I don't know if it's true, and I don't intend to test it!

I'm getting about 500 miles per DEF gallon.

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Just traded an 05, 38', 28,000 lb Travel Supreme w/350 cat w/ turbo. Now have a 2013 40' HR 32,000lbs w/350 MaxForce 10 w/turbo. TS averaged 7mpg towing an 11 Edge. Have 1100 miles on the HR and averaging just under 9 mpg towing the same Edge. Power fells pretty much the same, even with higher load.

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I happened to take the Tiffin Factory tour yesterday. They use a MaxForce7 in the Allegro Breeze (28 and 32') which is mounted on their own chassis. Their larger models use Cummings 340HP and up with DEF. The tanks are on the passenger side which makes fill at Flying J problematic since the DEF dispenser is on the driver side when pulling in. They are trying to redesign this but the 2013s all have it on the wrong side.

I plan to carry a fresh DEF sealed container and keep the DEF in the coach reasonably fresh. It gets really hot in the summer here. Now if I can figure how to add a drain to the tank....

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I don’t have an engine that requires DEF but I do have an
ISL 400 in a 2008 Travel Supreme.

With the talk about the costs of DEF I thought I’d share my
experience. Last August the particulate filter plugged and
the engine went into “tow” mode, had it towed 90 miles to a Cummins shop where
they replaced the particulate filter, since warranty doesn’t cover filters it
cost $2775 to fix, not including the tow (glad we have CoachNet).

This was at 82,350 miles on it.

So if you look at the cost of DEF over 82,000 miles compared
to replacing the particulate filter DEF doesn’t seem too bad per mile.

I wish we didn’t have to worry about either. I’m not saying one
is better than the other just $$ per $$ DEF doesn’t seem so bad.

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