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Diesel Motorhome MPG-- Honest Answers Please
jleamont replied to luckydog1949's topic in Type A motorhomes
Carl Agreed! When we switched from the class C to the DP last May I was curious but really did'nt care. Everyone asks me like its a big deal when I tell them 10mpg their response is always "thats horrible". I was more concerned when I am traveling that there is a place to purchase diesel fuel and if I can fit in the fuel island. It wasnt that long ago I owned a Ford F250 with a 351 and it was only getting 8mpg and you could park a few of them inside the coach, funny no one asked me then what my MPG was, that was really horrible. I am more comfortable now when we travel and with the diesel, I do not have to listen to a V10 at 6000 rpms on hills trying to build torque on a hill. We take trips across country every other year plus the usual vacations that are in excess of 250 miles often towing a Jeep, the gasser was wound out pulling hills and I was maxed out on my pulling capacity. After those trips the Mobil one came out of the crankcase and it looked like a thin road tar, It was only a matter of time before I was going to duck a piston coming through the dog box inside . Funny thing is the V10 would average 6.0-6.5 MPG towing, factor in the price of the diesel vs gas and I am still saving money. Round trip to California I estimated I will save $400.00 to $700.00 in fuel with the additional comfort from several angles I have no complaints on the decision we made last May. Can t wait for the next trip out west! -
Diesel Motorhome MPG-- Honest Answers Please
jleamont replied to luckydog1949's topic in Type A motorhomes
Lucky, welcome! We have a 40' Holiday Rambler Imperial Cummins ISL 8.9L 400hp towing a 2 door Jeep Wrangler (3800lbs). The coach weighs 34000lbs the last trip I checked it we were at 10.05mpg and the generator was running 50% of the 8 hour trip. My average speed was 58mph running the hills of I-81 from TN to PA. As stated above in my experience also the higher the speed or Bio Diesel blend will affect your mpg, not sure about you but I have never had a tail wind to help me along -
Larry, seems like we all have the same or similar problems. maybe one of us will figure it out on here, keep checking in on this forum. Thank you, Joe
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Ray, here is what Monaco is telling me to use in its place. Is this what you have on your coach? Joe
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Michael, This story is a flashback to our first coach with an Atwood 6gal HW heater. Mine was dirty contacts, cleaned them up and it worked every time. The only problem was it sucked down the propane and you only had hot water for about 2 min then can warm...then cold. I was warned "the first cold shower I take this motorhome is gone....you may go with it"! So after being married for 10 years at that point I thought about it and figured I better come up with a solution.... I replaced it with a tankless from Precision temp. It hardly used any propane and you could shower all day with very hot water, and was a direct replacement for the Atwood. Best investment, she was happy with her hot showers and I am still married 7 years later . The system was more expensive but it had no annual maintenance and the huge savings on Propane was worth it.
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Rich, an engine with SCR (uses diesel exhaust fluid) require less parked regenerations. This was the regeneration cycle I mentioned above, being his coach is a 2009 he is right on the threshold from being SCR equipped or not. The engines with EGR only are dirty and do require more frequent parked regeneration cycles, especially if there is not a lot of highway traveling at which point both are designed go into a "passive regeneration" if the soot level warrants it. In my experience the non SCR engines require a regeneration on average 2-3 times more often....but again it will depend on the driving conditions more highway...less parked regenerations, but still necessary. Every situation I have experienced when a chassis manufacture does not install a switch on the dash it has always baffled the engine manufactures, one time I was handed a bulletin where the engine manufacture warned the chassis manufacture that it was needed...but still produced without. I would either have the switch installed or in my case I would not leave home without my scan tool. I hope one day the Feds, engine manufacturers and chassis manufactures can figure all of this out and get on the same page. The amount of problems and out of pocket expenses the consumer has to contend with is crazy. I deal with this and all of the problems with the new technology every day. And I must admit some engine manufactures are better than others but they all have problems with this technology and in the end the consumer suffers, like in this situation.
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Ok, I called Monaco...no longer available. It is a wind deflector. I think I will remove it and see if there is a difference in the wind noise. If it is a problem I wil have to engineer something. good thing I do not sit over there!
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Don, From my experience with this message, if you cannot force it through a Regen with the switch (since you are not equipped with one) I would take it to the dealer, while I was there I would ask them what it would cost to install a switch. I ran into this with Caterpillar a few years ago..they felt driving should be enough, well it wasn't and the CAT dealer recommended we install a switch on all of the fleet with the C7S engines. I installed a force switch on the dash of each unit, just some pre planning, wire and a momentary on switch. Being this is an RV Diesel Pusher the distance from the engine to the dash is much greater than the trucks I was working on at the time. I would save a few $$ and ask them to put the switch in a suitable location in the engine bay or a side compartment close by would be better, so you can access it when needed. The fleet I responsible for now we average a manual regeneration once every 6,000-8,000 miles and they usually take 45 minutes parked in a safe location (away from anything that can catch fire from the heat generated). If you let it go to long it can clog the Particulate filter to the point it will have to be removed and cleaned with a machine...and that gets costly. Just my two cents but I hope it helps. Joe
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Thanks Ray, I am going to call Monaco to see if it came this way or it was an aftermarket add on. The boss wants it replaced . I guess this time I will listen...or dig deeper.
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Roy, I cannot speak to Progressive, we have Erie with full coverage, I remember my wife telling me it was more than Progressive (we looked at it before) but so was the coverage, we usually max out insurance coverage to be safe. I am curious to see what posts follow from people with more experience with claims etc.
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Second photo. It looks like a channel to help with wind noise off of the door. Thanks, Joe
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Ray, here are photos of what I have broken, any idea what this is called and do I need it?
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That would be the start of a day you wished you stayed in bed. Brett, Herman, still smiling and laughing over the comments, love this forum!
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Wheel to hub runout could need to be corrected. When the front wheels were installed on a hub piloted design the wheel will never be at a true center, over time the tire will wear with a high and low spot on the tread causing a vibration in the steering. To correct you will need to lift the tire from the ground, locate the hub flange tabs and place a feeler gauge between the flange tabs and the wheel (.060 is where I check them), on one of the tabs the gauge will slide in the easiest, mark the tire directly above this tab, spin the wheel 180 degrees and loosen the lugs, this will allow the wheel to reposition itself on the flange in the opposite position it was in, retorque the wheel. I would try this first since it will be the most cost effective with little to no out of pocket expense, especially if you can do this yourself.
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SKellyRV, Try www.nwrvsupply.com, I was looking through their website for odds and ends that were missing on our coach when we bought it and i was impressed with the inventory they have for those hard to find items. It might be worth a phone call to them, they were very pleasant to work with on the phone also. Other than an internet search, Maybe Iowa80 truck stop's website will have something similar for the cap and Northwest will have the logo for the center. Good luck with your search. Joe
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Ray, I am determined to figure it out, one I do I will let you know. Does your door have a piece of plastic protruding out that looks like a wind deflector on the hinge side of the door? I am trying to figure out what it's called, mine broke over the winter (cover slapping it) and I need to either remove it or replace it. It looks like its mounted under the hidge and comes out on a 90 degree from the hinge.
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Interesting, I have an HR 02 Imperial, and the door chirps when driving down the road depending on the position of the coach and condition of the road, which is very annoying, anyone have a fix?
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Advice: Base Plates, Brake Systems & Tow Bars
jleamont replied to RTinVa's topic in Toads-Towed Behind Motorhome
I run Demco commander tow bar and blue ox Apollo brake, Jeep Wrangler all 4 down. -
Mike, good to hear, new tires were your only option from the sounds of it. As far as the weight goes, I do not know what to say, I lived with it on our old coach after some modifications, Bilstein shocks, Firestone ride rite air bag helpers, Roadmaster sway bars and a rear track bar addition, all masked the over weight feel on the rear and made the unit handle much better on the highway. I felt comfortable driving it after the modifications. Knowing it is over in the rear is good, you can tailor your driving habits based off of that. Good luck Joe
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Ray, thank you for the update, and I agree, no GPS, I can understand cell phones etc, we do not allow any cell phone activity in the company i work for, hands free or otherwise in the trucks or company cars, our safety department does not want any controllable distractions, our in cab satalite communication system has GPS built in and it is locked while the tractor is in motion and the map directions are down loaded when they are dispatched in the AM, no driver interaction unless there is a problem and the Vehicle must be stopped with the parking brake applied to access, the driver can only view the map on the screen while in motion. I received my camera yesterday, my wife was excited, I would not be suprised if it is installed by the time I get home from work. we were both very suprised how small the camera was, I bought the newest version that you have. Hopefully it is only used to capture scenery.
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I rechecked all 4 last night, only one cell on one battery was on the 1265 line, all of the others were on 1275 or above. That made me feel much better since these were on a float charge for the last day. Thanks for all of the help. Joe
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Brett, thank you for the input. once I install the nose protector i purchased tonight I am going to recheck the batteries and see where they are. Much easier to correct in my driveway than at the campground. Thanks again Joe
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Thanks Rich, I will take that approach with them, I just found it hard to walk away while that was going on for that extended period of time. Thank you, Joe
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Thank you for the information. I really appreciate the wealth of experience and knowledge on this Forum. Joe
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Rich, thank you for the detailed explanation. I will have to monitor these more often, perhaps reposition the coach so I can access the battery compartment when it is parked for the season. I am concerned about the "battery equalization" process the charger performs, if it is getting the batteries to boil how long can they take that before something catastrophic happens? The charger runs this cycle for three hours, seems a bit too long to me, could three hours do more damage than good? On a good note each battery has a temperature sensor attached to them, so I am guessing the charger is monitoring this and will back off if they become overheated. I would probably feel better if this was all taking place farther away from the coach. desertdeals69; how long do you equalize yours once a year? Thanks guys