manholt Report post Posted January 3, 2020 Joe, if that's for real, then I'm as confused as Bill. Why would Cummings have 30+ engines listed, if you can't buy them? That makes no sense! Ray, I don't do Truck Forums...most of the info don't pertain to RV's, OTR's put more miles & more stress on a engine in 10 days, than we do in a year+! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jleamont Report post Posted January 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, manholt said: Why would Cummings have 30+ engines listed, if you can't buy them? That makes no sense! Chassis manufacture dictates that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted January 3, 2020 OK, got it ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rayin Report post Posted January 3, 2020 4 hours ago, manholt said: Joe, if that's for real, then I'm as confused as Bill. Why would Cummings have 30+ engines listed, if you can't buy them? That makes no sense! Ray, I don't do Truck Forums...most of the info don't pertain to RV's, OTR's put more miles & more stress on a engine in 10 days, than we do in a year+! Carl, my point to reading trucker forums is exactly as you stated, they encounter and correct more problems in a much shorter time frame.While we MH owners are talking and scratching, they usually already have the engine problems solved. re: Cummins engine lineup, OTR engines are the smaller part of their variety of engines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunnyjeep Report post Posted January 15, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 10:36 AM, Factor said: So they do have the ability to be corrected so they dont fail based on the original design. EG get rid of the ceramic plungers and bad valves? Not the Detroit d60? Since you are an ADS which diesels over all do you prefer to work on? Do you have a good list vs a bad list you could share? I see you have a 2002 HR Imperial 40. I think currently I want a 2006 HR imperial pdq. If I can find one in say a yearish. Have you liked that coach? I can start a new topic as well if needed. We have a 2004 HR Imperial PDT (mid entry door instead of the front bus style door) with the 400 HP ISL, great coach, our issue is with the previous owner and his love of upgrading electronics and adding gadgets (wasn't too good at the installation of them tho), the last 6 months has been spent chasing one electrical gremlin after another, we're now looking at a 06 Monaco Chateau 600 HP to replace it with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted January 15, 2020 Is that a tag axle coach? I know the Dynasty is! 06 or older Monaco is good..Monaco owned Beaver, HR, Safari, CC & their own line! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Factor Report post Posted January 16, 2020 On 1/15/2020 at 10:30 AM, Gunnyjeep said: 06 Monaco Chateau I would get the Detroit Series 60 if I could find it. @Gunnyjeep A Chateau is a great choice for a coach. I am leaning more toward a Dynasty. https://www.monacocoach.com/luxury-rv-brochures?y=2006 Engine options Roadmaster S-Series: Semi-Monocoque Chassis Cummins® ISM 500 HP Engine with Allison® 4000 MH 6-Speed World Transmission and Electronic Shifter Torque: (@1,300 RPM) 1,450 lbs./ft. Max. Net (Torque will be 1,550 lbs./ft. built after August 2005) Engine Displacement: 661”/ 11.0L Dual Fuel Fill 270 Amp Alternator Rear Axle Ratio: 4.30:1 Tires: 295/80R/22.5 Polished Aluminum Wheels Full-Cushion Air Glide Suspension with Ten Outboard Air Bags and Ten Bilstein® Shock Absorbers Air Suspension with Ping Tank Automatic Traction Control Air Disc Brake System with ABS Tag Axle with Anti-Lock Braking System Auto Slack Adjusters on Brakes Two-Stage Jacobs Engine Brake Pre-Wire for Supplemental Braking System Engine Block Heater with Switch on Dash Automatic Air Leveling System Undercoating 10,000 Lb. Hitch Receiver and 7/4-Way Trailer Plug Remote Inflation Connector OPTIONS Series 60 Detroit Diesel 515 HP Engine with Allison® 4000 MH 6-Speed World Transmission and Electronic Shifter; Torque: 1,650 lbs./ft.; Engine Displacement: 858” Cu. In. Cummins® ISX 525 HP Engine with Allison® 4000 MH 6-Speed World Transmission and Electronic Shifter; Torque: 1,650 lbs./ft.; Engine Displacement: 912” Cu. In. Cummins® ISX 600 HP Engine with Allison® 4000 MH 6-Speed World Transmission and Electronic Shifter; Torque: 1,850 lbs./ft.; Engine Displacement: 912” Cu. In. ADC RV 2-Position Adjustable Shock System Hydraulic Leveling System Dual Leveling System (Air/Hydraulic) Monaco Signature 2006.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Factor Report post Posted January 16, 2020 On 1/15/2020 at 10:43 AM, manholt said: Is that a tag axle coach? Carl Yes it is. It's the Signature. Tag was Standard Tag Axle with Anti-Lock Braking System Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted January 17, 2020 Factor, DD60, 515 is a good engine. So is the Cummins 500 ISL. Don't worry or be impressed by HP & 100 Ft. Lbs, bigger the HP=$ at pump. Also, a 525 will get to max torque about 10 seconds before the 500. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildebill308 Report post Posted January 17, 2020 The only problem with buying used is you may need to look a long time to find that optional configuration. I think I am going to see how a Cummins ISM 450 with 1500 lbs./ft of torque workes out just for the fun of it. Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted January 17, 2020 Bill, if you find that engine, let me know! The 425 gets 1,550 torque...the 450 is 1,450 and the 500 is 1,550! The M11 evolved into the ISM & it was built up to 2010. Mine is the 2009, 425 HP! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Factor Report post Posted January 17, 2020 13 hours ago, manholt said: Don't worry or be impressed Oh I am not. I assume they are both good engines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Factor Report post Posted January 17, 2020 10 hours ago, WILDEBILL308 said: The only problem with buying used is you may need to look a long time to find that optional configuration. I think I am going to see how a Cummins ISM 450 with 1500 lbs./ft of torque workes out just for the fun of it. Bill For sure and I am not stuck on an engine or a model currently. @WILDEBILL308 Are you looking for different coach currently? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildebill308 Report post Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, manholt said: Bill, if you find that engine, let me know! I will need the serial number to accurately verify what the Cummins website says. They show the 450 and 500 ISM at the same torque. Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildebill308 Report post Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Factor said: For sure and I am not stuck on an engine or a model currently. @WILDEBILL308 Are you looking for different coach currently? I am going to blame it all on you. I was looking around to see what might fit your earlier criteria. https://www.nirvc.com/Sales/Inventory/3150B Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Factor Report post Posted January 17, 2020 2 hours ago, WILDEBILL308 said: blame it all on you sure blame the new kid... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildebill308 Report post Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Factor said: sure blame the new kid... And We won't charge for the service of blaming you. Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kurtsimon Report post Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) I have a 2008 Monaco Executive with the 525HP ISX with 135K miles. What can I do to make sure I don't have a failure from the valves or fuel injector pump on the road? Can I replace the head/valves with a rebuilt? Can the injector pump ceramic problem be preemptively fixed? Kurt Edited January 9, 2022 by kurtsimon clarify fuel pump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jleamont Report post Posted January 9, 2022 4 hours ago, kurtsimon said: I have a 2008 Monaco Executive with the 525HP ISX with 135K miles. What can I do to make sure I don't have a failure from the valves or fuel injector pump on the road? Can I replace the head/valves with a rebuilt? Can the injector pump ceramic problem be preemptively fixed? Kurt YES, you can call Cummins with your engine serial number and see if you have the problematic pump. If so they can recommend a place to have it swapped with the updated design Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-437923 Report post Posted February 17, 2022 650 isx problems Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-437923 Report post Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) Is there anyone that has had a failure with the ISX 650 HP Cummins engine? Can you contact by sending me a PM (Personal Message) Edited February 21, 2022 by hermanmullins Safety Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-437923 Report post Posted February 17, 2022 On 10/2/2018 at 3:27 PM, Mdrouin said: I am trying to build a list of people who have had a valve failure or are concerned they may in the future. Please post here or message me if you can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted February 21, 2022 This is a open Forum, it's recommended that you don't list your personal phone or work #! Ask anyone to send you a PM instead...jleamont is an excellent contact for info! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rayin Report post Posted February 23, 2022 Then there is the man on irv2.com who has spent over $60K out of pocket for his 650HP ISX. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted February 23, 2022 The list is already long! I have the new and improved version of the 600, to my knowledge, Cummins don't make the 650 anymore! As RayIn said, but that's only one out off 100 or perhaps a thousand, that you never will hear about. 🤬 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
