rwitt Report post Posted June 28, 2016 We are currently travelling the 101 in Northern CA. I filled up in Redding, CA and had no problem finding diesel that was marked Ultra Low Sulfur. We''ve been on the 101 now from Myers Flat up to Crescent City and the only diesel fuel says Diesel #2. Our 2008 Monaco emphasizes ULS diesel ONLY. I have stopped at two location to ask if Diesel #2 is ULSD and neither one of them know what I was talking about.............. so does anyone know if Diesel #2 is in fact ULSD or not and what I do if it is not. I can't believe, giving the number of Diesel Motorhomes we are seeing that no one else is having this question. I know there are other coaches that are required to use ULSD.. Need to fill up soon.............. HELP. TIA, Ron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaypsmith Report post Posted June 28, 2016 All road diesel fuels were required to move to 500 ppm in 2007, and that was lowered even more in 2010 in the USA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted June 28, 2016 Hi Ron. #2 is OK. It should also say what the % of Bio it has. If there is no Bio info then it's all diesel. Do not use over 15% Bio unless there is no choice, then just fill 20 gal and go to another station. In Oregon you can't fill your own fuel, if I remember correctly. Enjoy your trip! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwitt Report post Posted June 28, 2016 Thanks for the replies. I knew that all diesel was supposed to be ulsd by 2010 but this caught me by surprise. Every pump I've been to up until now has always stated ULSD and give % of sulfer, bio, etc......... These pumps have absolutely nothing on them except Diesel #2 or Diesel #1 (Red). Carl, I agree, it should say something about % of bio or something, but there is noting on these pumps at all. I've stopped at 5 different locations coming up the 101 and all are the same. I know I definitely need to stay away from Diesel #1 (Red). Thinking I might just put a little in until I get to Oregon and see if it is different there. Really threw me for a loop when I asked several people about it and they never heard of ULSD. Thanks again for the responses. Ron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfe10 Report post Posted June 28, 2016 Ron, Yes, as stated, 100% of the on-highway (non-red) in the U.S. and I believe in Canada as well is ULSD. So, #2 diesel= ULSD. Other variable is percent of biodiesel. And, do NOT believe that what the pump says or clerk says is what is in their tank right now. In many cases, the percent biodiesel varies by commodity price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted June 28, 2016 Oregon is a different animal all together! Carl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
five Report post Posted June 29, 2016 12 hours ago, Manholt said: ...In Oregon you can't fill your own fuel, if I remember correctly... Enjoy your trip! You remember correctly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayne77590 Report post Posted June 29, 2016 I thought that in Oregon you could pump your own diesel but not gasoline. But, hey, what do I know. Someone correct me 'cause we are headed that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lenp Report post Posted June 29, 2016 YES you can pump your own diesel in Oregon - I do it all the time. You may run into a station that insists they do it but that is station dependent. Recent legislation even allows pumping your own gas at remote (small) towns after hours. Lenp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted June 29, 2016 Lenp. Nice to know. I only filled up once in 7 Feathers Casino, Redmond Rally. I'll probably be in Oregon after W. Springfield...it's going to be a long Summer and Fall ! Carl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaypsmith Report post Posted June 29, 2016 Diesel #1 is distilled to a lower volatility which means it is higher grade than #2. This changes the dynamics of the fuel so that it works well at a lower temperature and over a larger range of usage. The (RED) is a dye to signify that the fuel is for OFF ROAD use, therefore no highway taxes have been added, not as a marker for #1 fuel. I would not expect to see red in #1 fuel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildebill308 Report post Posted July 2, 2016 You don't want to get caught running red. There are some stiff fins, and it is hard to get all the residue out of your system as it shows up under a blacklight. Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted July 2, 2016 Bill. Your correct, it's on the books, but I have never heard of anyone being stopped for a fuel sample ! We run the red all the time in our ranch trucks and tractors. Granted, I would not do it in a DP due to other issues, than risking being checked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hermanmullins Report post Posted July 2, 2016 Some where in my very ole gray matter I seem to remember that if a shop is servicing a diesel engine in an over the road vehicle and they spot red dye residue, they are obligated to report it. To whom I don't know. Herman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted July 2, 2016 You are correct, that's the reason, it's not in my coach. Another, is a truck stop will not allow it. I have to re fill on my trips! James and I don't have that problem on the P/Up's. Original tank and a 51 gal. in bed = 1,400 miles. We got a 2,000 gal. tank by the barn and 3-200 gal. bladders in the fields. That's in Gregg/Smith County. We got the same set up in Hill County that is currently been sold to a gravel company, that took a 30 year contract on 3 sections! Life in the slow lane. Carl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
