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2 hours ago, fountaindavid.jean said:This is a picture of the Board out of the plastic box and this was the condition when I first had a problem two years ago.. The Peach colored wire is what I used to get the MH to my residence when it first broke down 2 years ago. The three melted sockets are the ones that were replaced with heavy duty versions. The chassis battery stud still had 12 volts on it shortly after everything died. The back of the Board looks as good as the front with no burnt places.
David, The picture shows the Solenoid on page 307 in the manual link I sent you in a PM of the manual link. The page offers some info on what it does.
Bills thought regarding a loose ground is a good one. Grounds are one of the most common electrical bugs.
Rich
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27 minutes ago, wolfe10 said:Rich,
Assume you are thinking about the IGNITION SOLENOID for the signal from the ignition switch to it. Not the issue should be inactive while on the road? <but that solenoid should be hot from another fuse point, not the 50 amp fuse mentioned. That problem tends to sound like a short under the panel that the relays are mounted on. Wires shorting to the metal underneath the the relays and fuses. ????
Kind Of ! The other key point was the damaged relays and sockets that where replaced.
Leaning towards some chaffed or damaged cable(s). The coach is almost 18 years old.
The starting relay current should only draw current in start. while on the road what would draw enough current to trip the 50 amp auto rest breaker? and what ACC where powered on when it shut down? smaller fuses all OK and he still had 12 vols on the supply side of the 50 Amp fuse. that info should narrow down the problem.
Rich.
Note I do not have the OEM electrical drawings for his model year just some photos.
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Herman, Good points, but he did not mention any check engine lights coming on.
Rich
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David, Could you post the relay you replaced that where melted / The number and location information would also help. Think you are referring to the fuse panel in the outside bay - drivers side. I think they are all in the start/run circuits.
Did any of the ACC items work?, like the heater blower motor and windshield fans, Windshield wipers, turn signals / 4 way flashers?
Rich.
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13 hours ago, mbriggs1053 said:We are traveling to West Point NY in Sept. Looking for suggestions for full hook up campgrounds (pet friendly) in Orange County Ny.
Many of the campgrounds in the area open around Memorial Day, tend to be more expensive. September can be, very nice, Time of the month can be cooler around the 30th.
You mentioned West Point. Do you have someone going to the Academe?
The people in and around The big apple have a different personality, then up Stater's
You can Google---campgrounds in orange county NY to start looking.
Many people love the area, not me just to many people.
Rich.
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3 hours ago, Timnjulie said:I've been starting my 2005 Damon Astoria M-3679 engine and generator monthly while in winter storage to keep batteries charged. I repalaced all batteries last spring. I plugged in to storage units outlet when put in storage Last month engine started right up, but generator would not start, tried using the bump start button that didn't work. I repalaced the generator starter last summer so I know it's not the problem. It starts to turn over then clicks. Do I need to charge coach batteries? Appreciate any advice.
What Make and model generator is in your Coach? Thinking that your coach is diesel powered, So that would also use diesel fuel.
What is the weather like in your area?
Is it cold?
Did you treat you fuel before it was placed in storage?
Is the fuel tank full?
Did you try to start the Chassis engine and then try to start the generator?
Rich.
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9 minutes ago, F505074 said:my reply is sirs i needs someone if possible to guide me from thebegining procedure what is the first thing i should do to begin
Welcome to the FMCA Forum!
There are no dumb questions on this forum. We want everyone to be safe.
Please post the Make, Model and Year of your coach. That helps us to offer relative information.
You just have to inform us as to where you want to start, All of the members are new bees is some respect as there is always something new that many of us have been through at some point.
Rich.
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MNWilliams, Welcome to the FMCA Forum.
IMHO. This is a question that would be best answered by Roger, the forums personal tire engineer. The tires do degrade over time. Mother nature and Ozone are not kind to tires.
Think safety first. The time to enjoy life and do things that have been on your bucket list for a few years!
Rich.
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After looking over information and PDF files, there are some common items and systems between the Spartan an Freightliner X series Chassis. The Instrument panel or dash can look total different, but the Madallian system was used by both when it comes to reading ECM fault codes and setting up other systems.
The 2 PDF files cover the common information. The biggest difference is, one is an owners manual and the Other is more a service manual.
The Freightliner manual is more for the owners and the Spartan information is in the realm of the service tech. It comes down to knowing when to hold them and when to fold them as the song goes.
This information is for those who love there classic coach and much of the information for them is disappearing.
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8 hours ago, Creativewoods said:I have a 2001 National Islander w/330 Cummin ISC. The ATC dash light came on and stays on now. Everything seems to be working fine with the ABS system. Have not taken it to have the fault code checked yet, if there is one. Any help out there?
Welcome to the FMCA Forum !
Traction Control System is used to prevent wheel spin from occurring due to acceleration. ... The major difference between an ABS and a Traction Control system is that while ABS stops the wheel from spinning while braking, Traction Control stops the wheel from spinning while the vehicle is accelerating.
Both systems use the same wheel sensors.
The model year coach you posted could have a air over hydraulic type system. The traction control system could be activating because of low hydraulic fluid. Should that be the case, the ABS light cumming on could also start coming on.
How long has it been sense the hydraulic fluid been checked or replace? If you have hydraulic brakes. The problem could could be in the air system, if that system is in need of repair. Moisture in the air system or even an oil buildup from the air compressor could come into play.
The other item causing the issue could be corrosion of the wheel sensors or related connectors.
Who's chassis is the coach built on ?
Rich.
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2 hours ago, rcieslak67 said:Thinking about some new tires for my Holiday Rambler. I have 295 80 R22.5 Good Year tires now. Does anyone have any experience with Hankook Tires as they are a lot cheaper than Michelin.
You might take a look at this thread. The tier size might not be the same as your's , but the information will help you understand the variables one needs to consider. This information is posted in the Tires thread.
Rich.
Hankook 275/80/22.5 Vs Michelin same size
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22 minutes ago, Nagchamp said:All my appliances were working this morning, I came back tonight and nothing will light. Any ideas? Ido have propane and I’ve turned it off, left it off A few minutes and Back on slowly without solving the problem.
Welcome to the FMCA Forum!
How full is the LP tank?
What is the ambient temperature at your location at the time and what was it when the LP system was working earlier?
What is the Year, Make and Model Of you equipment.?
Rich
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24 minutes ago, jleamont said:I would consider pulling them, take them to a hydraulic repair shop and have them inspected and or rebuilt. My guess is low quality packing inside. Most shops should be able to rebuild them for a fraction of replacement cost with higher quality parts.
I sympathize with you, they should last longer!
Ditto!!! The only question I have is how much weight is the slide ram moving? and if he knows what the slide maximum load is?
Rich.
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13 minutes ago, jleamont said:YUP, ours went up in flames on electric. For the life of me I still cannot figure out why the propane valve opened and the ignition turned on. It was simultaneously!
Joe, Think there is a hidden design flaw. When the electric system shorts out / fails, the refrigerator control board will tend to switch to LP. That is a auto function on many models.
One can defeat that by placing the system in the LP mode manually. Not real positive if that step will prevent your case, but it would keep the gas valve open and no AC supplied to the 2 - 400 watt electric heater coils that light up the coolant in the system. Kind of like using a lighter to light a number of chemicals spraying out of the can.
Rich.
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3 hours ago, MattM said:I have replaced 4 of the 5 original hydraulic rams on my 2010 Georgetown. The last two replaced with rams manufactured Nov 2018...so just 15 months later, one of the rams is leaking. LCI told my tech the warranty is one year! Sorry. Can you believe that?
One member of the forum did ask what rams you are talking about?
The leveling jack, slide out rams or some other application? You replaced 4 of the original 5. That kind takes the leveling jacks out out of the equation most coach builders use 3 or 4.
What is the price of each ram and do you R and R them ? and did LCI personal offer any thoughts as to why they failed or are failing?
Rich.
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Ray, The LP pilot voltage sensors fail over time and the voltage drops low enough to disable the LP valve from opening or staying open.
We do not use the Norcold on AC power. The heater coils cause the cooling unit to cycle from cold to hot . IMHO -that causes the heat exchanger to keep expanding and contracting. Like bending a piece of wire back and forth - it will brake . LP heat is quit steady so there is very little thermal change in the system.
The ones that have failed have been running on AC power from the information I have been reading.
Growing up in rural america , we had a ice box until I was around 10 years old. We got ice from an ice house, delivered by a horse and wagon.
Then we got a LP style refrigerator that worked for a long time even after we got Electricity.
Rich.
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F 432347 This is a copy of the manual that covers How to use the message center to read The Fault Codes that might be stored. They keep trying to keep things up to date as the software changes.
This file is 52 pages long.
https://www.rvtechlibrary.com/chassis/spartan_message_center.pdf
Check Page 23, Section 2-15 covers fault code retrieval. Might be a good starting point.
The other item to check is the ground connections, because issues you did mention are intermittent.
Rich.
Edit, Added information . This is a less intensive PDF file that covers the coach gauges and message center. This file is 14 pages long.
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1 hour ago, jleamont said:Rich, pretty common on newer equipment that is multiplexed. When one module is missing an input i.e. open ABS sensor the others see the fault and illuminate their lights as well. I just experienced a new truck with a malfunctioning AM/FM radio cause a breakdown! Most newer chassis get the speedometer signal from the ABS module, and most will not move with a wheel speed sensor or ABS malfunction.
Thanks Joe !
My reply was based on the coach bring 05 model year, The newer units have a more extensive Can system for sure !
Rich.
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1 hour ago, bubbapalmer1 said:Brand new to all this. Finally Retired. 😎 Lifelong camper but 1st RV. Couple of practice trips and watching you tube videos convinced me I should have a written checklist for set-up and for take-down. Know where I might find one I can print off? Just joined FMCA per you tube recommendations. Looking forward to your help throughout our adventures.
Welcome to the FMCA Forum and the learning curve we all have been on. Some members have owned more then one over the years and each time we change coaches, it starts the whole learning process over.. LOL
The list can very, Kind of depends on the Make, Model and year.
Could you post That information and then you will get some information relevant to the coach.
Rich.
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4 hours ago, F432347 said:if you add 36 inch extension length to your torque wrench set your torque to 164 that will be 475 on the lug nut. ac 43-13 aircraft inspection and repair under torque wrench computations
Do you have an A / E background?
Rich.
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4 hours ago, F432347 said:cruse control along with speedometer quit, abs and check engine light come on sometimes and go out. any body have this problem
Welcome to the Forum!
Could you post the Model and chassis the Coach is built on for the group . Could you offer some information on the Smart wheel?
Speedometer, ABS and check engine light, seam to be an odd combination. ECM is linked to all the mentioned issue form my limited experience.
Rich.
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Wakery,
Could you also post the make of tires and size plus the DOT tire date stamp>
Rich.
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Joe, Attached is A link to the parts list for your Generator. and a PDF file copy of the owners manual.
https://gensetservices.com/wp-content/themes/gensetservices/PartsPDFs/0C4547.pdf
And a copy of the owners manual, that should help you set the voltage and the frequency - should read around 120 volts at 60 cycles.
Rich.
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Joe, Thanks for the feedback. Glad that things are looking up and the readings are in the nominal range.
Rich.
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Dave I'm trying to read the part number of the board. Think it is 1561507 Rev. A Is that correct?
Rich.