jbrunson Report post Posted May 26, 2016 http://www.landlinemag.com/Magazine/2005/Oct/BottomLine/two-or-one.aspx anybody tried this yet??? claims of more weight capacity, better ride, higher rollover speeds, and less rolling resistance.......... snake oil? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dickandlois Report post Posted May 26, 2016 26 minutes ago, jbrunson said: http://www.landlinemag.com/Magazine/2005/Oct/BottomLine/two-or-one.aspx anybody tried this yet??? claims of more weight capacity, better ride, higher rollover speeds, and less rolling resistance.......... snake oil? The real problem is that if one of them fails, it can cause a lot of damage not only to the coach, but to the rim and maybe the axle assembly. With a set of of tires on the rear if one does fail the side still has one that will allow you to move to the side of the road. Remember big trucks that are running them have more then one axle to carry the load and move to unit off to the side. Rich. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obedb Report post Posted May 26, 2016 Lifetime member of OOIDA. They publish Landline. They have internet discussions on maintenance and equipment. Few were positive about super singles . The changeover is expensive, the trucking community at large has not embraced them, and they have many negatives. Being a retired trucker, I know who the really big companies are and very few have super singles. Save yourself many $$$. Stay with what you already have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blakeloke Report post Posted May 28, 2016 Agree with Rich & Obed......although you see some big rigs using super singles, most have not. As Rich mentions, the security of having four tires on the rear axle allows one to limp off to the side of the road or safe spot in the event of a blow-out is good security for me. I think one would have to put a lot of miles on their coach for an economic payout given the cost of the tires and new wheels. Blake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jleamont Report post Posted May 31, 2016 No way would I make this change, here's why; The expense of changing wheel bearings or possibly hubs to accommodate the new offset, plus the cost of the wheel and tire. Most people fail to realize your axle housing, Hubs and bearings are all different when Super Singles are spec’d. If you are trying to lighten up for fuel economy change the inner wheel to aluminum. Also keep in mind traction can be a concern in bad weather including rain with the singles. I do not believe in this application the positives would outweigh the negatives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tireman9 Report post Posted May 31, 2016 See previous discussions in the "Tires" section. Bottom line is that for trucks that need max cargo weight and that drive 70 to 100k a year with very little time on secondary roads the "Super Single" may be a reasonable investment. The lower weight of four to eight Singles rather than 8 to 16 normal size tires and wheels can be significant in more load which can mean more income. I also doubt that many are converting existing trucks and those that do run these new tires are ordering on new trucks or trailers. If you and your RV have the same needs as the trucks outlined above and if you can order a new RV with these special tires then it might be a reasonable item to consider. Otherwise I do not think making the change is worth the $$$$. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boatracer Report post Posted August 11, 2016 Had this discussion with the tire dealer replacing steer tires on the coach I bought yesterday from a cost issue only you can buy a pair of drive axle tires for less than 1 super single plus you will have the other mods to make it work right and a wheel they are rated for more weight but in all but the largest coaches h rated tires should do the job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted August 11, 2016 In Europe the big rigs, delivery Box trucks, buses, gravel trucks and cement mixers all have singles. However they all also have more than one drive axel, some I have seen up to 4! Tour buses have a drive and a tag...just like I do, but even with the weight of passengers and luggage, they don't come close to my empty weight! Carl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimnorm Report post Posted October 19, 2016 Way way back, as in read 1970 or so, we had 'super singles on our camper and on one of our work trucks. NEVER AGAIN! Absolutely lousy braking. The truck with the SS tires would skid all over, the same truck with dual tires stopped much better and also had more pulling power. We did get a set of them to work on the camper, but if we could have fit dual wheels we would have done that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
five Report post Posted October 20, 2016 Many years ago, we had an inside dually blow out. If it had been a super single, we'd have had a bigger mess than we had...and been stranded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deenad Report post Posted November 22, 2016 Newmar tested them some years back, they must have decided the singles weren't worth the cost or something as they still use duals. Some of the construction trucks here use them on their pups, but not the towing rig. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites