dickandlois Report post Posted June 22, 2016 To those that want to stay with Windows 7. There are some steps to take for security updates. Just in case you missed the information on the web. As always check twice / read thoroughly and hopefully this will help. https://www.yahoo.com/tech/sticking-windows-7-sure-5-131519540.html Rich. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted June 22, 2016 I had to turn my updates off in order to prevent W10 to download automatically. Lost way to many files, then had to pick a restore point to get rid of W10 and return to W7. Each time this happened I was in the coach and W10 gobbled up all my month available GB's. I love my old lap top and W7 ! I have had no Security updates this year and have no issues! I'm beginning to believe that Micro Soft is both the cause and cure of the issues ! My best friends DW has a PC with Vista and has never down loaded any thing from MS. She shops a lot on Internet and spends time on all the Twitter, Facebook, etc. Kids play on it and never lost any thing ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rsbilledwards Report post Posted June 22, 2016 Manholt, I really liked 7 as well but and I have a friend that is a real guru and not a youngster that convinced me that he could and would set 10 up to look like and respond like 7. I commented about auto updates and the inherent dangers. I also had an article that I believe was published in the FMCA mag a few months back explaining some of this stuff. He indicated that he was aware of the described issues. He also had me wait until after April 2016 to do the install. I cautiously said ok and I am better of now than before. It is wonderful, it is faster, it looks just like 7 on the PC and he has controls on what is updated automatically. I can tell you I would have no hair if it had been me setting it all up. My PC is a Dell760 monster and nearly 10 years old, There have been no issues and he was doubtful that it would be a good idea to install it, but worth the chance. He is a pro and I can not offer enough accolades to his abilities. He was amazed at how well this thing runs. I bought it new and was running what ever it was before XP. Bill Edwards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaypsmith Report post Posted June 22, 2016 Well XP was introduced in 2002, 14 years ago, before that ME (heaven help), Windows 2000 Pro, (very good replacement for NT), before that Windows 98, (3rd edition was the best). Yes 10 can be set up to look like 7, but every upgrade that I have seen from 7 or 8 seems to be much slower, while a clean install is a little better. Glad you found a pro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
five Report post Posted June 23, 2016 If you do not want Windows 10, call Microsoft and a tech will talk you through how to block it. Afer you tell him WHY you don't want it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted June 23, 2016 Sorry, but I just don't trust MS anymore! Since my work is related to and in Norway and USA, I'll probably get a Apple Lap Top. Several things I like: Everything in/out is encrypted, compatible with 110V & 220V without adapters and you don't need a password, it uses your finger print (any finger) ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hermanmullins Report post Posted June 23, 2016 I have been seeing Dell Ads for new PCs and Laptops with Windows 7 Professional with Windows 10 license. At least Dell know 8 and 10 are too difficult to use. Herman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandorr2000 Report post Posted June 27, 2016 I installed the GWC Control Panel on my Win 7 desktop and wife's Win7 laptop. Works great. http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted June 28, 2016 What the blank is a GWC? Carl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thestoloffs Report post Posted June 28, 2016 It's supposed to read "GWX Control Panel". The little windows icon in the lower right hand corner of the taskbar is called GWX - Get Windows X. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted June 28, 2016 Did you get the installer or stand alone? I'm not a geek, wish I was ! Carl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
five Report post Posted June 29, 2016 The laptop I am on now is dying and I'm in the market for a new one. Like to find one without Windows 10 if that can be done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildebill308 Report post Posted June 29, 2016 I have had no problems with 10. Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dickandlois Report post Posted June 29, 2016 3 hours ago, FIVE said: The laptop I am on now is dying and I'm in the market for a new one. Like to find one without Windows 10 if that can be done. Kind of comes down to open source operating system or Apple. There are always trade-offs. Rich. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hermanmullins Report post Posted June 29, 2016 Five, Look at Dell's web site, I have seen ads for Dell laptops and PCs with Windows 7 Professional OP. Herman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaypsmith Report post Posted June 29, 2016 If you are having a hard time finding controls in Windows 10, you may want to install god mode, it puts what you need in one window. www.windowscentral.com/how-enable-god-mode-windows-10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obedb Report post Posted July 1, 2016 I have a desk top HP running 7 with a terabyte hard drive and a wide screen HD monitor.Have not used it for awhile. When last used it was for online banking with Symantec scans before and after only. Hacking has me worried enough to not do online banking any more. Keep enough money in two accounts with Wells Fargo that I would not want to get into a pissing contest over whose fault it was. I also have a seldom used Lenovo running 8.1 bought a year ago from Best Buy. Wanted to run Silver Leaf, have the hardware, but just haven't seen the need. $$$$$ wasted. So/ In a year the new OPS is now 10. I think the big MSF campus in Washington State is kinda like government agencies reinventing things to justify there existence. I am with Carl/ gonna buy an Apple Laptop. I am currently trying to get my email account to once again work on my iPad. Five years fine. Did nothing to change it. Address the same. Suspect MSF saboteurs at work or a vast left wing conspiracy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hermanmullins Report post Posted July 2, 2016 Has anyone out there been running Windows 8.1 and turned on their computer to find that it was up dated to 10 without you knowing it? I have an older PC and had the Windows 7 OP disc and installed it there, Love it. I am still of the ole school "If It Ain't Broke, Don't Change It". Herman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted July 2, 2016 ObedB. LOL. Herman. I agree! Problem is, we are being left behind, by high tech and 7 year olds! Carl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greamie Report post Posted July 13, 2018 Having never gone to this topic before, am finding it interesting. Can't resist putting in my 2 cents. Yeah, W 10 is a bummer. I solved it by going Linux. Best move I ever made. And it's free. Go for it, and enjoy, Gary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rossboyer Report post Posted July 13, 2018 While there is a learning curve, I like Windows 10, and I keep it updated frequently. Usually not on the release date, but probably within a week. The exception is if it is a security update. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayne77590 Report post Posted July 13, 2018 I have Apple computers, iMac27, MacBook Pro and MacMini, along with other Apple devices. On my three Mac commuters I run both Apple programs and Windows programs. It is a program for the MAC called "Parallels." Just a click of the mouse and you will be switched into what ever operating system you wish to use. It is the stability of the MAC and the easy GUI (Graphical User Interface) that I like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manholt Report post Posted July 13, 2018 My computer crashed and it had W 7 Pro. Now I'm on Linda's spare & it's a W 10...problem is, it's a 2016 model and MS does not support the original W 10. Yes, we can up date, but that is 6.4 GB + all the security patches! I have always felt that MS creates it's own breaches, to generate more $$$. My next stop, is the Apple Store, in Oslo, Norway with my, "computer for a brain", Cousin! Do like Wayne!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayne77590 Report post Posted July 14, 2018 Just for some history on me. In 1974 I worked part time for Radio Shack. Sold the TRS-80 while cutting my teeth on BASIC language and using that as a sales tool. Then the Color Computer. TRS-80 had 64Mb of memory and that was supposed to be enough for anyone. I had a little hiatus being in the military from personal computers but while in the military did operate a satellite terminal connected to the Honeywell mainframe. Then I graduated to a Univac monster using the reel to reel data transfers and binary light display. That led to a 12 Mb hard disk system upgrade with 1 mb on each of 12 hard disks about the size of an LP Record. In 1980 I purchased a VIC-20 (4Mb) and added 16Mb. Did a lot with that little machine including th 300 baud modem. Greatest little thing since peanut butter. Then the Commodore 64 and retiring from the Military I taught the C64 for a couple seasons for Adult Educations classes for a Junior College. From the C64 I graduated to the IBM 8088 Personal Computers. My sort of self taught computeers along with military training eventually, after military retirement led to a job ar NASA . I ended up as a IT Security Specialist and performed forensic analysis on computers that were used for other than NASA work. Out of the thousands of computers a very small percentage was Apple computers. One of the problems way back then was the inability to share programs and work between Windows and Apple systems. NASA decided to go with a predominantly Windows environment. That was just a little after 1994 when the World Wide Web (WWW), or Internet as we know it today, was born. I weened myself on Windows operating systems and became very knowledgeable with the systems. Why am I writing this? Well I retired in 2007 and went out and purchased my first Apple Computer. I can say personally that it is a much easier and stable system to operate and the programs that one has to pay for are much cheaper than Windows systems. I was afraid of the learning curve but it is very very easy to transition over. Yes, Apple Computers are more expensive but so very little in the frustration department. they just work well. Want to keep you Window's programs? Easy, just add the program Parallels ($79) to a MAC and it will perform both types of software. If all you do is surf the internet and perform small operations than the less expensive MAC will work. For more power users the higher priced machines may be best. Love the MAC. What's your story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richard5933 Report post Posted July 14, 2018 Personally never liked Apple products, largely due to the limitations placed on modifications and ability to personalize the setup. I know that their interface is somewhat more user friendly, but I just don't care for it. I also don't like the way that Apple attempts to own the entire ecosystem for their users. Yes, they say it makes it easier to prevent hacking and malware. But I don't buy that being their primary reason. I've been a PC guy since they started in the 70s and have stuck with it since. I've used MAC at various workplaces and never grew to like them. The current Win10 seems to be about as stable as any other previous version I've used. I'm not a fan of subscription-based software though, and that is what Windows has become now. You don't own it, you just use it. Most of the software that I pay for is also now subscription based. Microsoft Office, Quicken, Corel, etc are all subscriptions and I actually own nothing other than the right to use the software. I suspect that the cost for these software platforms are pretty much the same regardless of the platform. Most other software I use is either specialty software that was provided by my equipment manufacturers (like for my LASER engraver) or freeware. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
