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Carl, she contacted NIRV yesterday and got Brett Davis involved, Spartan is shipping her a DEF head today. Do you think it had anything to do with her having a 2022 London Aire on order with NIRV? I understand the DEF head cost is now almost $900. plus installation.

Her yellow light has been on for at least 5 days. The following is an interesting read but just because its on the internet, I ain't beleiving it. "I've been reading up on the DeRate aspect of a DEF Header failure. It appears that some OEMs have reached an agreement with the EPA to allow an Emergency Authorization Override that allows the DeRated vehicle to operate without the DEF system for a period of time. There is some reporting requirements but that sure beats sitting on the side of some roadway in "who knows wheresville".Also, Cummings/Freightliner appears to have either a reset or override triggered by a series of key turns and power resets that may help some get to a Service Center without a tow.Happened across this on the other forum:"Anyway... that night, I put the key to the left for two hours as suggested by Freightliner who said that sometimes clears the codes. In the morning, per a youtube video, I shut off the chassis batteries for 15 minutes. I also unplugged and turned off the house batteries for good measure. After 15 minutes, I turned the key to the right halfway not starting the engine. I let the system power up for 15 seconds or so and turned the key back off. I repeated that procedure 4 times and then started the engine. I still had the red stop engine light on and I assume I was still d-rated. I let the engine run a while... I'll guess at least 5 minutes. It sure seemed like a long time. After a couple of minutes, the flashing red low def level light went off and the gauge read correctly at 3 green bars. After several more minutes, the Red stop engine light went off and the system was normal. Excited to avoid a tow or a mobile tech, I started the 41-mile drive to Velocity in Tucson. After 10 miles, the orange service engine light came on and the DEF level flashed red, and it remained so the rest of the way. ....."

My previous motorhome on FTL chassis did that once to me and your correct, maybe 5 seconds but felt like it was instantaneous. I had some warranty work done on the cooling system and they didn't get the the sensor for the coolant overflow tank in securely and when it finally fell off it showed no coolant and shutdown.

Thats her concern. What the heck if the red light comes on and the engine shuts down? Best scenario is she is in a climbing lane, otherwise she could completely block traffic. Unfortunately, I can see a class action lawsuit in the offing.

I just read on a different forum that Spartan will only ship a DEF head if you have derated and engine is now shutdown. A poster has a 2018 Dutch Star and has 4 DEF fault codes but Spartan will not ship her a DEF until she gets the red light. Spartan told her to drive it until it shuts down. She just left Pagosa Springs and is not excited about crossing the Rockies with a good possibility of a shutdown ascending or descending 6-8% grades. https://rvforums.com/threads/otr-diagnostics-def-derate-faults.6326/

Yep! Add in the humidity and the real feel is in the 90's. 😓

That was my first thought.

It seems the higher percentage of failure is with Spartan. They are using a DEF head manufactured by Shaw, FTL uses a different mfg.

Not me unless there is another stimulus bill that includes a Newell.

Raise your bed up. You can then remove the false floor. The ATS is there with the heavy gauge wires attached. Honestly, that was several years ago and I don't know how I found it.

Either he found it or didn't need to know quickly.

Normally it is in the same bay as the power cord. My 08 Fleetwood Bounder ATS was under the bed. I had to remove the floor to get to it.

I used a Demco Kar Kady SS when I towed a Toyota Avalon. The wheels on the dolly steer and the towed vehicles tread width can be up to 76".

Warning light for what?

Did you ask the seller?

This was posted sometime ago and apparently they had an addendum to the benefits.

Makes sense to me, Five!

Well thankfully Bill and Carl stopped the runaway downhill train this thread was taking.

This thread started off going down hill and it continues to gain speed. So you've "professionally" inspected your tires and are wiling to resell what most of us believe to be aged out tires to an uninformed person. Personally, at best I find that immensely un-professional and at worse life threatening.

You might want to verify it will work with the AGS, if you have that feature.

Bill, they are also requiring reservations to simply to enter Glacier unless you're camping in the park. NEW IN 2021 Glacier National Park is instituting an online reservation system (ticketed entry) for the Going-to-the-Sun Road corridor between the park’s West and St. Mary Entrances from May 28 to September 6, 2021. Visit the Going-to-the-Sun Road Ticketed Entry page to learn more.

I would spend a day trying to locate sites in Pagosa Springs and in the Utah Big Five Park areas before spending more time on adding places to your itinerary. I predict its going to be almost impossible to easily find sites at this late date. A friend is going to Glacier in July and the closest place he could find is over an hour west of the park and he did this in February.

The problem with finding an RV park is most parks are already booked for this summer. I don't know if Homeland Security allows it but long term parking at the airport maybe an option. RV dealer lots are pretty empty because they can't get inventory so they may lease out some space. If you're going to need power, you're pretty much limited to a campground. Good luck.

What does the owners manual say about recreational vehicle towing?

Carl, I'm not sure we get any discount at Stripes. The TDS App doesn't indicate that. Have you used it at Stripes and received a discount?