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Obedb, check this video out. I am all to familiar with this specific engine and failures. I have rebuilt at least 50 by now and replaced more than that from catastrophic failures. It wasn't a great design to start with but if properly maintained and with some performance modifications they ran great and held up well (head studs, performance head gaskets etc.) FYI this is also the same engine utilized in smaller Motorhomes. Maxxforce 7 by Navistar (V8 turbo Diesel) Bill, I have an account with NAPA also. I too will run their filters (WIX) as often as possible in our cars. With the exceptions of the engine above and all of the Ford Diesel products after for customers, my coach (since their cross referenced fuel filters are the incorrect micron rating). My local store still has the display you mentioned, every time I go in I lift the filter cans up and look again, it still baffle's me. At work we sample all fluids on the fleet, I have a few DD13's that have had some poor oil analysis results come back (I love the "ACTION" emails). Based off of my suspicion I have thrown different filters on the same engines (we do not run OE filters here) one change I tried a different brand, the analysis got worse, next round I tried OEM filters analysis got better, went back to our stocking brand, dropped back in the red zone.... bad again, switched back to OEM got me out of red to "Caution". I believe what is happening is name brands are outsourcing over seas utilizing the same wrapper and we the consumer are oblivious to what is happening behind the scenes. I am currently working to purchase OEM filters for the same price as the aftermarket, I can probably get it close, but at the end of the day the I have to obtain our expected disposal mileage even at a slightly higher maintenance cost. One phrase I learned in the business; "pay me now or pay me later" it still holds true even though I do not like this phrase.

Five, thank you for the explanation, that is what I would have expected. I have a friend with a Dynamax Super C. He had a problem with his slides, they flew a drive service out to his house picked it up and drove it back to AZ.

Obedb, there was a point in time I would agree. Today's engines are temperamental. Depending on designs coolant circulation how much heat must be carried at specific flow rates they became over engineered. That is why Ford has several differ transmission fluids and coolants depending on what power train is under the hood, while the coolant from the local parts store is universal. I watched many people wouldn't read their dipstick at the dealership and add universal transmission fluid to their truck. Did many transmission rebuilds not covered by warranty and many Diesel engine repairs also not covers for the incorrect coolant. They would require us to pull samples before authorizing the repair. Honda for many years had special power steering fluid, that goes back into the late 80's. Probably still the same. Heck Cummins has at least 4 difference coolant specs. I'm no engineer but there must be a reason. I didn't believe much into filters until we had a bunch of CAT C7S injection pump failures back in 2007, CAT came in took our filters and failed pumps had them tested and told us you do not have a pump problem you have a filter problem killing our pumps. We switched to CAT and the problems slowly went away.

Well they will most likely work on the others, theirs is just more dialed into their products to enhance the longevity of it. But for a few dollars per gallon why branch out, cheap insurance. the filters has me puzzled that no aftermarket has the same micron spec. So I spend $2.00 more per filter and it could prolong my $3500 injection pumps life or help it along the entire time I own it. No brainer there either.

That's priceless I have a 4th " I really don't like that can you change that? I was think something like this"

Shortbus, no offense taken we have a 40' well actually 41'2" and have two teens. We don't leave fires smoldering DW puts them out before we go in for the night if we even have one burning, anymore it's not too common. Kids; they walk the line or they deal with me, respect others, don't walk through other sites (even empty ones) they are usually inside playing cards or at some activity. I understand where you are coming from even my kids do. We often have these conversations on the trip home. You ever camp near me most of the smoke is from the smoker cooking meat, and I do share . Obedb !

FL Keys then up to ST. Augustine, I haven't booked it yet, I just put some feelers out there, still trying to see what options I have down there and choose wisely . any suggestions?

Shortbus, I can relate not judging you by any means.....believe me I get it. The stories and stuff that aggravates us I couldn't post on here. I have been places I couldn't get to the site let alone fit in it. My friend watched a 45' Entegra hit a tree while backing into the site as the CG guided him in, when he opened his slides they were spilling onto the sites next to him, never should have been there in the 1st place! I have got into the habit of asking the site dimensions, then Google earth the CG and compare to the site map on their website. while its not always useful it does help. I also hate when you arrive and its not a CG but a trailer park, up here the term "campground" and "Beach House" gets thrown around and used loosely, you have to be careful when booking in the North East. Next year I am planning a trip to Florida in their off season (summer) and I am booking a class a resort only, due to the age of my coach they asked for photos, I sent them and we are all set, no issues.

My guess is either just for the experience or he's had it with the tents, cabins or other 85% not mentioned above.

Carl, I agree. I only run Cummins Coolant in both the coach and generator. When I bought this unit to my surprise aftermarket coolants did not meet the Cummins specs, close but no cigar. Mine tested great but I replaced it anyway since it was the wrong color, when I saw that after testing it I know it wasn't OEM coolant, being aware none of the aftermarket coolant met the Cummins spec I elected to flush it all out. Boy was that a project with Motor aid and on a DP. I decided then only OEM filters and coolant for both the generator and Coach engine. I do run either Mobile Delvac or Shell Rotella for oil.

Thanks guys for the ideas. I was considering the purchasing two from the video and placing one on top and one on the bottom, just so they do not dance while driving down the road. Rich, my rollers are a hard plastic/Teflon, no issues with them so far. Kay, thank you, I will show these to my DW tonight, not sure if she will want one mounted to the frame again since the clothes hamper is back there and she often snags it pulling out through the doorway.

bajco1, I have seen this before with the fleet at work. I had two Freightliner M2's do this, one with an ISC and the other with an ISB. One was a 2011 and the other a 2012. We bought them used and of course both had fresh coolant in them at time of purchase. What we didn't know was the company before us never serviced the cooling systems and started to rot them out. They started to fail in 2016 around 100,000 miles. We chased coolant leaks two different times on each before I told our one location to replace all of them. This was a project since there are a few between the transmission and the engine, which required the transmission to be pulled for access. In a DP....oh boy, depending on the engine compartment design by Tiffen that could be a real project. Component's like the transmission, air compressor will have to be removed for access since they do sit behind them, which can get involved. For us to do them in a truck chassis (more room to work) internally cost us around $2500.00 per truck. I also had the water pumps and thermostats changed while in there. One ran another 15,000 miles after and the EGR cooler failed, not sure if related (I cant help but think it was related). $3600.00 is a tough one to digest.

Anyone ever change out the poor factory design for the latch on their bedroom closet doors. We have these (link below) clips and I have replaced 4 of them on each side so far this year and its getting old. My doors are only a mirror with some gold trim around the mirror the they hang off of. I have considered removing them and building wooden doors with a different style lock. This is what we have now for a latch, http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/jr-products-sliding-mirror-catch?a=754309&pm2d=CSE-SPG-15-PLA&utm_medium=PLA&utm_source=Google&utm_campaign=CI&gclid=CPyYrKbu7c0CFZNbhgodyIMGlA Thanks to RV Geeks video I may have this figured out, this looks like a viable solution to our problem. video below, incidentally we have the exact same doors they have. I cant be the only one with these so this might help someone else. Any other ideas?

I would get one of these action lines to assist (the ones we read about in the RV magazine's). They seem to be very effective and wouldn't cost you anything but maybe a trip back to Indiana to have it looked over by someone higher up since it will most likely gain their attention. Carl, I didn't think about it but yea I could see one of these hitting that number, after all my MSRP was $425,000 (yea, its a nice unit but really???) I have owned two in my life so far, both used purchases from small mom and pop dealers, both treated us like family and I didn't spend nearly that on both combined. I guess we were just lucky so far. I'm putting all of this in the back of my mind, learning and hoping I don't ever run into this situation. Rodger, I have become friends, or more like distant family with most of the folks on here, they have taught me a bunch and helped me with problems we have experienced over the years which is great since my immediate family and I have only been RV'ing for 8 years now part time, we've laughed and had heated discussions about issues and hopefully learned from each other all while helping another person like the OP. Hopefully this post on here will gain enough traction, I know if I was running that company I would have people monitoring forums especially this one trying to get in front of complaints before unhappy customers are created. Bad publicity doesn't sell motorhomes. 1fatboyr, please keep us posted on your progress and I wish you the best of luck. I'm certain when your complaints reach the right desk in that company someone will step up to help you. As you realize getting to that desk is going to be your challenge, how fast it happens will tell you how much the lower level management staff cares about its customers. Hopefully you get to that person before you write the check Rodger spoke of above to wake someone up. Joe

This taking it back to the factory is all new to me. So what do you do while your unit is being worked on? Are you allowed to speak to the technician, sit in the coach while they work? Or is it like any car dealer atmosphere? We have owned some high end cars and I was a service manager at a BMW dealer some years ago they roll out the red carpet when you pull up. Is it the same when you roll up in a coach like this? After all it's pretty much the top of their product line. I just can't process the treatment I read about. I treated people with cars that cost from $40,000 to $140,000 like they were gold, I can't imagine doing it to someone with a $300,000 motorhome. Geese if all of their customers got bad support it wouldn't take long for them to disappear.

So sorry to hear this. I hate to say it but most of todays new equipment in this industry sound similar to your list of complaints. It seems like each manufacture has these problems and the worse part most do not seem like they care, they just want your money. The manufactures want to build them as fast as possible and let the dealer fix it under warranty. Between the coach builders with poor quality on materials, poor workmanship then throw the new emissions laws into the pool, new equipment scares me. Another problem I am faced with each and every day is the technician pool (industry wide) is diminishing, most of the younger generation doesn't want to work and get their hands dirty, so what is out there for them to hire is pretty sad to put it nicely, so when it goes back for warranty whether it be the dealer or the manufacture service lane the person fixing your list of issues has little to no idea what they are doing, its just a pay check for them. I have this conversation with leadership where I work on a regular basis, every so often you find one technician that is great, but its rare and becoming much worse everyday.

Carl, just air. HWH system.

Greg, do you have the model specifics for the coach you are looking at and maybe the engine information, size or HP? I'm sure someone could shine some light.

Rich, good point about how many times we enter and exit, ours will also compensate. funny story; I was cleaning up inside and moving stuff around Saturday, DW was sitting under the awning and it exhausted air near her, she came up out of the chair leaned inside and asked me if I thought that was funny . I tend to be a practical joker but I was innocent on that one .

Looking forward to the photos, I replaced the microwave (regular microwave not a convection oven/microwave) on our last coach twice. Original one failed the dealer told me a standard table top version is all I need to install, so I did and it lasted a year and failed (no air circulation). So I replaced it with a RV specific one with a new mounting face plate kit. Sounds like you have the air circulation issue figured out, ours vented forward.

If you want nice you should be in Maine. We just got back and the highest temp was 75 no humidity.

Yup, it only supplies the leveling system, the tanks will still fade out over time, but the coach will not sink. I have no idea how it works yet, other than when the coach runs out of air and you push a button on the HWH pad you can hear a compressor turn on, but it is much-much slower than the main air supply system to reposition the coach.

Nice place, just returned from there. Friendly people, clean park roomy sites. And best of all its right off of I-495 and RT 1.