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aldfmca   

I am going to downsize from a 32' Class A to a small (24' to 27') Class C with one or two slides. We are not full-timers. We make some short trips and usually spend one 2 month time period camped during the year.  I have never pulled a toad and do not want to do it now. We have always driven the car separately or driven scooters.

Anybody have any comments or recommendations on:

What is the longest RV can I get & still be comfortable driving it around town, such as going to grocery store or a museum?

This will force me to disconnect every time we want to go somewhere (we are not the type to just sit and relax). I don't think this would be a problem, but my partner has already expressed some doubts. She is responsible for getting the inside ready, while I am responsible for the outside.  Any thoughts about this?

I don't know what else to ask, so if you have some experience you can share I would appreciate it.

Thanks, Al

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12 hours ago, aldfmca said:

I am going to downsize from a 32' Class A to a small (24' to 27') Class C with one or two slides. We are not full-timers. We make some short trips and usually spend one 2 month time period camped during the year.  I have never pulled a toad and do not want to do it now. We have always driven the car separately or driven scooters.

Anybody have any comments or recommendations on:

What is the longest RV can I get & still be comfortable driving it around town, such as going to grocery store or a museum?

This will force me to disconnect every time we want to go somewhere (we are not the type to just sit and relax). I don't think this would be a problem, but my partner has already expressed some doubts. She is responsible for getting the inside ready, while I am responsible for the outside.  Any thoughts about this?

I don't know what else to ask, so if you have some experience you can share I would appreciate it.

Thanks, Al

Welcome to the forum. Why haven't you had a toad? Why are you making your poor DW drive the car?

If you don't have a toad you are giving up over 80% of the things you can do on a trip. Keep in mind many places will ticket you if you don't fit in the marked space or stick out to far on the street side. Like DD said any thing over a small van conversion is a problem to get around in in town.

"This will force me to disconnect every time we want to go somewhere" Help me out here. Less than 2-3 min to disconnect the toad verses disconnecting the coach breaking down and storing everything. Then having to re set up when you get back. You can leave the toad  disconnected until you are ready to leave. 

You would rather drive something to go shopping or sight seeing that gets 5-6 mpg in town or less verses a toad that gets over 30+ MPG. 

As you don't have you coach in your signature I don't know what it is. I would stick with a Class A and upgrade as it seems you want slides. You will have more storage, bigger tanks more room.

By the way this is from experience-- not I think or I heard it on the internet.:D

Bill

 

 

 

 

 

 

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manholt   

Al.  Welcome!

A toad is convenient.  However I'm a Dinosaur in the Motorhome .  Never had anything besides Class A, in the late 1960's to 1981, we did not have a toad, did not know what a toad was.  We had 18 foot to 31 foot and unhooked each time we needed to go for Laundry, shopping or sightseeing.  It was a way of life and no problem!  In 1981 we had an Apollo 3100 and had a custom made lift made for the front to carry 2 Honda 80cc scooters!  WOW !!!  The freedom!  In 1983, we had a Apollo 3300 that had the Hondas in front and in 85' we added a Isuzu trooper II as a Toad.

In todays market, where most Class C's  and A's are 102 inches wide, instead of 96 inches above, with no slide out.  I would have to agree with DD69...your limited due to 102" wide!

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RedLdr1   

We downsized to a small, 25 foot, no slide out, Class C  and dumped the TOAD...and don't miss it a bit.    For most trips we do not need a TOAD as we can visit every where we want to go in our Class C.  But then we are not "campers", we use our Class C to tour so we are generally moving on every day or two.  When we are going to be in a single spot for several days, with a lot of local or nearby attractions, I just call Enterprise and they deliver a rental car. 

Having tried both I'm happy without a TOAD.  The smaller Class C is pleasant to drive, handles well, is easy to park, and meets the 25 foot or less length requirements in some national parks.  And I have yet to have a problem parking at a museum, driving in town, shopping etc...I'm sure there are some places I would but we haven't found one yet.   And best yet my wife enjoys driving it...it's nice to get a break from driving!

If you research small Class C you'll find the number of smaller units with a decent TOAD tow rating is fairly small.  Most, but not all, M-B Sprinter based C's will be rated for around 3,500 pounds max tow weight.  Ford Transit based units like ours are rated at around 2,000 pounds so almost any car is out...  Forest River makes some E450 based 25 foot C's, like the Sunseeker GTS 2430S, that could easily pull a big TOAD.   I'm having a hitch added to our new C to allow for using our bike rack, our bicycles will work in a lot of places as well.  And a trailer with a Polaris Slingshot just may be in my future.

Try going TOAD less, the worst case scenario is you'll end up renting a car... 

 

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On 10/14/2017 at 8:54 PM, aldfmca said:

I am going to downsize from a 32' Class A to a small (24' to 27') Class C with one or two slides. We are not full-timers. We make some short trips and usually spend one 2 month time period camped during the year.  I have never pulled a toad and do not want to do it now. We have always driven the car separately or driven scooters.

Anybody have any comments or recommendations on:

What is the longest RV can I get & still be comfortable driving it around town, such as going to grocery store or a museum?

This will force me to disconnect every time we want to go somewhere (we are not the type to just sit and relax). I don't think this would be a problem, but my partner has already expressed some doubts. She is responsible for getting the inside ready, while I am responsible for the outside.  Any thoughts about this?

I don't know what else to ask, so if you have some experience you can share I would appreciate it.

Thanks, Al

Any thoughts?  Every where you go and everything you want to do and see is going to require that you disconnect from shore water, electric and sewer?  Why don't you/won't you take along a towed?  Even scooters is better than nothing but, dang, scooters as your only option?  You leave home for 2 months and the DW has to follow you around the Country in the car while you drive the RV?  Sorry, I just don't see any reasonable answer to your question about length when I cannot fathom having to drive the house to the grocery store to pick up some olive oil.

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manholt   

RedLdr1.  Welcome!

Understand your situation, been there and got the T-shirt...18 years of Class A's less than 30 feet, 96 inches wide and we had no problem with rigging down and being gone all day, then rigging back up!  That's the way most everyone did it.  1967 - 1985!  We did not know anything else! :)  Yes, we did rent cars for extended stays, or in cities on the West coast (California) that did not then and still does not allow RV's in their city's....like Santa Monica! :o

You have my best wishes for your future travels....enjoy! :)

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Actually, we have had two class A coaches (32' ad 33') since the mid-1990s, and never had a towed.  We do take the coach to town to do shopping, and take it sightseeing and most destinations.  We might consider it, if/when we full-time, but not on our current week-long, and weekend trips.

Chris G.

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We had a 32 ft Class A that we drove all around Branson, MO without a towed. The traffic was very heavy, other drivers were very friendly and let us make turns wherever we needed. 

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jlef123   

We have a 27' Born Free Class C. No slides and it is 96" wide. We do not use a toad. If we are staying in 1 spot for some time we rent a car or can use Uber if in an urban area. Do not mind unhooking only takes a few minutes. I usually leave the water hookup at the campsite and take the electric cord with me. Electric cord is expensive to replace the hose is quite cheap. We generally do not hookup the sewer hose unless we are dumping. Have regretted not having a toad a few times like this past summer in Glacier NP. Would have liked to have driven on the going to the sun road but our coach is too big. Just about any coach is too big. Took a tour bus instead and had a great time. There have been a few cities that we couldn't park in over the years but can count those on 1 hand.  

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