Need Advice - On Purchase Of Newmar 4035dp 4035 newmar
Posted 26 November 2012 - 09:32 PM
We are in the process of shopping for our first RV - we plan to start full-timing in 2015. I've been searching for a 40' or less DP MH. We ae certainly still learning and to learn, so far we've attended a couple RV shows, listened to a bunch of pod-casts and read a few books. We have a list of "likes" and a few "must-haves". We've narrowed down the manufacturers we like so far and Newmar is on the list of "likes".
I'm hoping this community might be able to help me make a better decision...and I have three basic questions.
First my situation. Through a friend of a friend we've located a 2007 DutchStar 4035 coach with a 400HP Cummins and less than 14000 miles on it. The MH is not near me, its about 200 miles away. It belonged to an older gentleman that past away this past Spring. The family now has it. They claim to have a clear title. The "think" everything is functional. They said they have the original Manuals and the "window sticker" listing all the equipment and MSRP. They don't know if its ever been serviced. They have provided me some pictures, it looks very nice.
I plan to travel there this week to look at it, and take a friend along that is more of an RV'er than I - however, he's more of a 5th wheeler. I've been unable to locate a reputable RV mechanic in the area, so at least initially, I'll be doing the best that I can...
So my questions:
1. Are there any specific things I should be certain to inspect closely? Such as recalls, quirks, problem areas, optional equipment that is noteworthy? Roof problems? Drive train issues? Electrical defects? Or anything else I might otherwise be overlooking?
2. I'm going to assume everything will need serviced, such as the diesel engine, the hydronic heat, the batteries and tires replaced, and I'm guessing a few other things I'm unaware of. And I have no idea of the cost of these services... so what am I forgetting? Any idea on the costs?
3. Last question - Does Newmar keep track of services? If I was call them with the VIN number could they tell me anything about the coach? Can a dealer determine the engine status if the connect the coach to their systems?
TIA for any and all assistance. Truly appreciate the assistance and input.
Posted 26 November 2012 - 10:02 PM
Posted 27 November 2012 - 07:52 PM
I would look at it in person and then ask to have the engine and transmission looked at by a good mechanic shop. If there is a Cummins dealer in the area that would be a good choice. Ask them to change the oil and filters at the same time. If all of the chassis equipment is in good shape the next step would be making sure all of the house equipment is functioning. That would be the air conditioners, fridge, water heater, heaters, and microwave. Look for stains in the ceiling as that is an indication of roof leakage. If all is well there you should have a good coach.
Posted 28 November 2012 - 05:59 PM
Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:25 AM
We've made 2 long trips (one of 2,200 miles and one of 1,900 miles) and it has been great. It drives better than I expected a 38 foot home on wheels to drive and is very comfortable. As previously stated they are solid and well made with good quality components. I can't imagine having any serious problems with a coach that has only gone 14K miles. I would take it for a drive and any serious trouble should make itself evident. If the drivetrain is in good shape the house items (heat,AC,refrig,etc) can be checked individually. Six year old batteries that have sat unused should be load tested and might need replacement soon. Cost vary according to size and quality. It's well worth spending the money on batteries. Tires for our coach (I've replaced 2) were around $ 500 each, installed.
The DS is a great coach. Good luck
Posted 30 November 2012 - 11:14 AM
The Mrs. and I made a quick dash to go look at the home, just to see if it was even one we should consider.
We determined that it has been driven, and serviced, most recently June of 2010, and its had 500 miles put on it since June of 2010. It had warranty service at NEWMAR in early 2007, for the rear mudflap (HULA SKIRT). Other than that, no records with any local NEWMAR, SPARTAN nor CUMMINS dealers.
We also determined that the previous owners were not the meticulous type. Nor were they clean freaks...
The RV looks like it might have been someones "home-when-not-away-from-home" or a wayward son-in-laws pad?? Who knows.
1. It needs a major major scrubbing on the interior.
2. It needs some minor roof maintenance (has the upgraded fiberglass roof).
3. It might need the carpet replaced, and perhaps the tile.
4. The basement needs slideout trays.
5. The hydronic heat is a question mark??
6. The dining table looks like someone with cufflinks sat at it...(its worn)
7. Coach batteries are corroded and leaked a little.
8. What appears to be the only evidence of a roof leak above the drivers cockpit on the window valance...its minor.
1. Engine starts & sounds fine.
2. Generator starts and seems fine.
3. Engine Maintenance was done
4. MH has been driven some, although not a lot.
5. Other than the table the rest of the interior furniture seem fine (needs cleaned).
6. All the manuals seem to be there.
7. Did not find and body damage.
8. Did not see any damage underneath.
9. Generally we like the basic floor plan.
We might return for further investigation... meanwhile we need to:
1. Determine what a flooring/upgrade will cost us.
2. Ascertain what the MH is really worth in its current condition.
3. Ascertain what its worth once refurbished.
4. What would a MH warranty cost us and how exactly they are implemented.
BOTTOM-Line - Is it worth the effort? Assuming we can buy it at a BARGAIN?
Thanks for any advice or input.
Posted 30 November 2012 - 07:34 PM
Another important thing to look at is the condition of the manuals, any invoices that might have been saved denoting any problems with the systems and just a history of what work was done. In my case, the only owners were an elderly couple and the recording keeping was not very good, but I did see some recall notices from Workhorse that had been completed. Tight paperwork will help sell your RV in the future because it shows you care.
Good luck, Eric Schrader, Canton, Ga.
Posted 01 December 2012 - 10:14 AM
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